General discussion...
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:07 am
Formally know as "Debating Semper, if you're interested?".
I thought a change of topic title was in order since this discussion has taken on a more general direction
On the fallacy of the false left v right political paradigm...this quote pretty much sums it up for me:
"Governments, one and all, partake of the nature of rackets. They become partners in crime and ultimately annihilate the civilization over which they preside.”
--Joel Saladin
Quoting Frank Serpico: the word politics can be broken into 2 parts "poli" Greek for "Many" and "tics" which are blood sucking parasites...my interpretation of what Serpico says: put the 2 together and we have many blood sucking parasites running our nations and our lives.
Both Saladin and Serpico have not told us anything that has not been true throughout history, and is true to this very day. Govt-regardless if they are labour, liberal or conservative-are there to serve their own agenda, the agenda of the banks and the corporations. they are not there to look after you, they are not there to look after the interests of the nation, if they were they would have told the banks to take a hike in 08, instead we are on the verge of a 3rd round of bailouts. more than that, we are on the verge of global economic collapse with no hope in sight.
The economy is just 1 aspect "the Govt" is incapable of running, to try and cover all of Govts failings would mean an impossible debate, so i'm sticking to just a few points.
to quote Thomas Jefferson:
"If we can prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."
Edit: Anything Govt touches turns to crap (i prefer to use the word "**Filtered**" but that's censored on these boards), look at education, healthcare, immigration, the economy, policing, anything else Govt is involved in. when Govts are not restricted they ultimately become useless self serving institutions of ineptness and corruption...unless you can prove otherwise?
I was hoping you would have taken me up on my offer of a debate from the London Riots thread, but since you have not, i decided i would do so myself![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
I thought a change of topic title was in order since this discussion has taken on a more general direction
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On the fallacy of the false left v right political paradigm...this quote pretty much sums it up for me:
"Governments, one and all, partake of the nature of rackets. They become partners in crime and ultimately annihilate the civilization over which they preside.”
--Joel Saladin
Quoting Frank Serpico: the word politics can be broken into 2 parts "poli" Greek for "Many" and "tics" which are blood sucking parasites...my interpretation of what Serpico says: put the 2 together and we have many blood sucking parasites running our nations and our lives.
Both Saladin and Serpico have not told us anything that has not been true throughout history, and is true to this very day. Govt-regardless if they are labour, liberal or conservative-are there to serve their own agenda, the agenda of the banks and the corporations. they are not there to look after you, they are not there to look after the interests of the nation, if they were they would have told the banks to take a hike in 08, instead we are on the verge of a 3rd round of bailouts. more than that, we are on the verge of global economic collapse with no hope in sight.
The economy is just 1 aspect "the Govt" is incapable of running, to try and cover all of Govts failings would mean an impossible debate, so i'm sticking to just a few points.
to quote Thomas Jefferson:
"If we can prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."
Edit: Anything Govt touches turns to crap (i prefer to use the word "**Filtered**" but that's censored on these boards), look at education, healthcare, immigration, the economy, policing, anything else Govt is involved in. when Govts are not restricted they ultimately become useless self serving institutions of ineptness and corruption...unless you can prove otherwise?
I was hoping you would have taken me up on my offer of a debate from the London Riots thread, but since you have not, i decided i would do so myself
![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)