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2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:33 pm
by Psyko
Post them here.
My nomination goes to...

Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:03 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
WooOooT!!

Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:20 am
by Ashu
Bruce Campbell FOR the WIN.
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:53 am
by Zeratul
They claim to be "land of the free" and all that and a bastion of democracy, yet there is never any real chance for any political party beyond one of two winning the elections. Chuckleworthy.
It would probably have been healthy for those two parties if neither had presidency for a while...
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:03 am
by Psyko
Zeratul wrote:They claim to be "land of the free" and all that and a bastion of democracy, yet there is never any real chance for any political party beyond one of two winning the elections. Chuckleworthy.
It would probably have been healthy for those two parties if neither had presidency for a while...
It's about the money. Members from other parties do not have anywhere near the financial pull as the Republican and Democratic candidates. Some from the Independent Party have won Congressional seats, primarily because they were able to get enough funds to compete on the state level; they are rarely able to get the financial support necessary for a long national campaign.
You also have the fact that on election years where the President is running for re-election, like this year, there are Republican debates constantly which only show the world the Republican candidates. If a viable third-party candidate existed, they would only be allowed into such debates after the Republican nominees are chosen. Which then makes it impossible for them to win because the country has had over 9 months to become familiar with the Republican and Democratic Nominees' platform. The laymen voter isn't going to pay any attention to getting to know a third-party candidate after being hounded by ads for 3/4 of a year. Their decision has already been made by that point.
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:39 am
by Zeratul
the American election system has not really changed much since the country was founded. it might have teched up a bit, but it is still based around systems designed for when communication from one end to the other took days or weeks rather than seconds.
Those two parties are too powerful. Any real political shakeup cannot happen there, much like it is impossible in countries that are considered dictatorships. Voters cannot really choose anything besides those two alternatives and actually have any chance of affecting things.
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:55 am
by Legendary Apophis
Well, I suppose it's either stability (few big parties that have big weight voters-wise) or instability (bunch of medium/small parties who need to make a coalition to govern the country if they get elected, with risks of coalition breakup and instability).
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:18 pm
by Jack
Zeratul wrote:the American election system has not really changed much since the country was founded. it might have teched up a bit, but it is still based around systems designed for when communication from one end to the other took days or weeks rather than seconds.
Those two parties are too powerful. Any real political shakeup cannot happen there, much like it is impossible in countries that are considered dictatorships. Voters cannot really choose anything besides those two alternatives and actually have any chance of affecting things.
It has not always been Republicans vs Democraps.
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:06 pm
by Psyko
[BoT] Jack wrote:Zeratul wrote:the American election system has not really changed much since the country was founded. it might have teched up a bit, but it is still based around systems designed for when communication from one end to the other took days or weeks rather than seconds.
Those two parties are too powerful. Any real political shakeup cannot happen there, much like it is impossible in countries that are considered dictatorships. Voters cannot really choose anything besides those two alternatives and actually have any chance of affecting things.
It has not always been Republicans vs Democraps.
True. However the parties have evolved throughout the course of history.
Re: 2012 Alternative Candidates
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:29 am
by Zeratul
true. not always, but these past many many years, it has refined itself into a system that effectively only has two parties. A minor candidate here and there in lower echelons of government do not count.