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Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:00 am
by Psi Kiya Trist
MEZZANINE wrote:Crap seems to be allowed, yet it means the same as the S word which is not


I have made the case for filtering that, and other words, but most of the mod team, and I'm sure users would highly object to such a decision.

The written form of the rule that says no swearing says "no profanity" at all times.

b. Profanity
The use of all profanity on the SGW forums is prohibited at all times. This means swearing, cursing, and vulgarity. This includes the use of masking. Profanity in images (such as in signatures), videos linked (such as YouTube), or in articles linked is also prohibited.

Note:
Masking is using characters, HTML tags, or anything else to express a word that would otherwise be filtered; in other words, it's bypassing the filter. Profanity not a part of the main focus of the page being linked (such as advertisements or comments) will not be policed as they can change quickly and easily.

Consequence:
When only minor profanity is used, only a Verbal Warning may be issused. In all other cases a Board Warning will be issued. In the case of Masking a Board Warning will always be issued.


So, would you prefer we police the forum that strictly? or leave it to personal judgement?

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:02 am
by Juliette
I vote:
No, we're all adults here, we know what words are off limits.
(Of course, we do not all behave like adults, but that is another discussion.)

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:04 am
by Drought
T-X wrote:I vote:
No, we're all adults here, we know what words are off limits.
(Of course, we do not all behave like adults, but that is another discussion.)


Same .. and besides ..... we wouldnt want to make several mods jobless

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:06 am
by Ashu
We're all adults on the forums or in the mod team? :razz:

Profanity also known as swearing, cursing, foul speech, and cussing, is a show of disrespect, a desecration or debasement of someone or something, or just the act of expressing intense emotions. Profanity can take the form of words, expressions, gestures, or other social behaviors that are socially constructed or interpreted as insulting, rude, vulgar, obscene, obnoxious, foul, desecrating or other forms.

From wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:10 am
by Juliette
I.e. everything, if the interpreting party is a **Filtered**. :)

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:29 am
by Ashu
Indeed. Some sort of basic regulation should exist, IMHO. But from there, the interpretation is up to the mod.

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:36 am
by Clarkey
This is such a stupid issue, we should all be adult enough to act in a proper manner and know when we are going too far.

If we start filtering words like crap because it also means **Filtered**, then are we going to start filtering the words poo and dump because they all have meanings relating back to **Filtered**.

Creating this thread is just stirring up a problem that doesn't need it imo, and putting options like "No, profanity makes talking fun!" on there is not helping the situation whatsoever.

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:49 am
by deni
We all know that Jason wants the forum family friendly. And family friendliness implies that no profanity is to be tolerated.

Now, there is a sometimes a fine line what's profane and what not and it usually depends on the context. The forum filter cannot cover for that nor can it analyze the context. This is the job of the moderators.


The filter is supposed to filter words that are deemed profane. It serves to

1. prevent the general public to see "bad" words
2. lessens the workload of the moderators as the posts do not have to be edited
3. lessens the warnings given out for swearing


If it was up to me, I would get rid of the filter and let the mods warn for every profanity/swearing/cussing that they see on the forums. It would save the team the endless discussions about masking, trying to avoid the filter etc.

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:30 am
by Clarkey
deni wrote:If it was up to, I would get rid of the filter and let the mods warn for every profanity/swearing/cussing that they see on the forums. It would save the team the endless discussions about masking, trying to avoid the filter etc.
^^

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:32 am
by ƒëmmë
I don't see how filtering makes it any less offensive, the intent is still there.. and instead of the word being replaced with *filtered* should be deleted altogether.

I think a measure of judgement by mods is called for too, ie swearing at someone is worst than just uttering a swear word..

I got a full board warning over a link to a song that mentioned a word that would be filtered on here (though others had used the same word on here by masking it and those posts had stayed untouched) .. wasn't intentional cursing but I could tell someone to go get *filtered* the intent is there but isnt a warnable offence..

who and how is profanity defined?

and some of the things that are filtered I'd rather hear, than the talk about bjs, lube etc

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:58 am
by Coulson
fem fatale wrote:and some of the things that are filtered I'd rather hear, than the talk about bjs, lube etc
I'm of the same opinion on these things. If I want to hear sick fantasies I'm quite able to visit a sex stories site. This boasting about for instance how gay you're is an insulting practice, insulting to gay people. Get real or get out.

The rest of your post I'm disgreeing with. Censoring something does make it less offensive, ideally the censoring is selfinflicted but in the case of hardline offenders their posts should be approved by mods before being shown for a while.

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:37 am
by minisaiyan
i once got a warning for arse, because ass was filtered. I got done for masking. il just turn american right?

I think certain words should be filtered, but it should be consistent. I started playing this game when i was 11/12. If i looked back and saw certain words being used back then, i would have been put off the game.

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:56 am
by Jack
If it were upto me, there'd be no filter and no rules prohibiting 'profanity.' Better yet, no rules prohibiting 'profanity' but keep the filter, just enable the ability of users to disable the filter.

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:57 am
by Psyko
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:
MEZZANINE wrote:Crap seems to be allowed, yet it means the same as the S word which is not


I have made the case for filtering that, and other words, but most of the mod team, and I'm sure users would highly object to such a decision.

The written form of the rule that says no swearing says "no profanity" at all times.

b. Profanity
The use of all profanity on the SGW forums is prohibited at all times. This means swearing, cursing, and vulgarity. This includes the use of masking. Profanity in images (such as in signatures), videos linked (such as YouTube), or in articles linked is also prohibited.

Note:
Masking is using characters, HTML tags, or anything else to express a word that would otherwise be filtered; in other words, it's bypassing the filter. Profanity not a part of the main focus of the page being linked (such as advertisements or comments) will not be policed as they can change quickly and easily.

Consequence:
When only minor profanity is used, only a Verbal Warning may be issused. In all other cases a Board Warning will be issued. In the case of Masking a Board Warning will always be issued.


So, would you prefer we police the forum that strictly? or leave it to personal judgement?

Crap should not be filtered.

"Profanity" is too broad of a term to use as a basis to enforce the rule. Using strict definitions to determine what is against the rules removes Moderators' abilities to determine intent and context in a post or comment.

I know you want this forum (and the world) to be black and white, but there will always be a gray area. It is up to the Mods to interpret such a gray area, and while this can breed inconsistency it sure beats warning everyone for every little emotional outburst (see Malx's definition).

Re: Filter list

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:20 am
by Psi Kiya Trist
Clarkey wrote:putting options like "No, profanity makes talking fun!" on there is not helping the situation whatsoever.


Is for people like jack.

Dovahkiin wrote:If it were upto me, there'd be no filter and no rules prohibiting 'profanity.' Better yet, no rules prohibiting 'profanity' but keep the filter, just enable the ability of users to disable the filter.


A small minority in my opinion, but putting it on the poll lets me know how big of a "minority", and if it really is a minority.