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do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:19 am
by Corran Horne
"...we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance..."

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:23 am
by Juliette
Since I am not included in the 'we', I cannot judge the veracity of that particular quote, Corran.
I believe the 'we' your quote mentions is this mythic 99.2% (the .2% are overmedicated rich folk)?

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:27 am
by Legendary Apophis
Lol you are talking about the leftist and commies. They don't make 99% of the population, though.

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:49 am
by Angnoch
no he is talking about a political power that almost succeeded in creating a third reich...

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:54 am
by Juliette
That one rocked some pretty crazy political mix-drinks.

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:05 pm
by Angnoch
he did have some noteworthy ideas...but ultimately power corrupts and he just couldn't keep his ego in check #-o not that all his ideas were noteworthy he was afterall a madman responsible for the deaths of countless lives and the destruction of centuries of history...none of which I agree with, just the fact he was brilliant in his own way...

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:07 pm
by Juliette
Angnoch wrote:he did have some noteworthy ideas...but ultimately power corrupts and he just couldn't keep his ego in check #-o not that all his ideas were noteworthy he was afterall a madman responsible for the deaths of countless lives and the destruction of centuries of history...none of which I agree with, just the fact he was brilliant in his own way...
Yeah. As opposed to Stalin, who basically plagiarised Lenin (who plagiarised a LOT of people) and that other dude.

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:14 pm
by Legendary Apophis
I'm not really surprised it would come from Hitler. Even though fascism and nazism aren't entirely similar, one shouldn't forget, originally, fascism was anticatholic, anticapitalist, "antibourgeoisie" and revolutionary.
Extremes always find common ground, anyway. That's why I have a great dislike for them, complete alienation of the masses from cradle to grave, etcetera...

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:18 pm
by Angnoch
but you see that is the beauty of the nazi party, it had the support of the people because it appealed to many of their ideals, they just had no idea about the depths the parties hatred ran...they were seduced by a charismatic speaker and powerful motivator, it had nothing to do with fear it was Nationalist pride that allowed for the rise and fall of the third reich under Hitler

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:22 pm
by Legendary Apophis
Angnoch wrote:but you see that is the beauty of the nazi party, it had the support of the people because it appealed to many of their ideals, they just had no idea about the depths the parties hatred ran...they were seduced by a charismatic speaker and powerful motivator, it had nothing to do with fear it was Nationalist pride that allowed for the rise and fall of the third reich under Hitler

They should have read The Book of their "Hero" to know more about him, I'm sure he explained in it with details his views regarding Jews there, isn't it?

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:26 pm
by Angnoch
Not in so many words no, he explained that it is more humane to cull the weak for the good of the strong than to protect them at the cost of the strong, Mein Kampf was a powerful weapon but Hitler's most powerful weapon was his voice, he was persuasive and sincere, which are dangerous combinations.

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:16 pm
by ramen07
Angnoch wrote:Not in so many words no, he explained that it is more humane to cull the weak for the good of the strong than to protect them at the cost of the strong, Mein Kampf was a powerful weapon but Hitler's most powerful weapon was his voice, he was persuasive and sincere, which are dangerous combinations.


That man was a showboat of a speaker. Like, the German Elvis kind of showboat

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:25 am
by Legendary Apophis
Who voted yes? We have a nazi-communist in the room! :smt119
Fascism and Leninism/Trotskism both held high the idea of Revolution and both hating greatly capitalism.

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:53 am
by Angnoch
Just because someone voted yes does not instantly mean that they are a Nazi or Socialist it means that they disagree with the capitalist agenda, and do not buy into the bullhockey that has been spread by politicians over the past 10-20 years. ;) Labeling them as communist would be like labeling me an revolutionary because I do not believe that our government (US) has the right, but rather the privledge and responsibility to protect and serve the people of this nation, not just blindly throw money into a raging inferno, and as a whole the people need to stand up and be heard...

Re: do you agree?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:02 am
by Legendary Apophis
Words chosen in the quote, if one was to agree with said quote considering its wording, would probably mean the person who agrees is likely to be more or less in favor of (far) left-wing ideas, or the anti capitalist far right.

My choice of "nazi-communist" was a wink to a Simpsons episode lol.