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Duderanch wrote:So say i was fighting you, i have 2 cov lvls less 5AC lvls less and a smaller MS so i'd be 4points up at the start?

Duderanch wrote::-k Not sure, i guess depends on starting stats, strike compared to defense and any limit on sabbing.

xDaku (Frog Boy) says:
if you wanna do point system
I think
2 points for smaller MS because there's absolutely nothing you can do to counter that
except take the beating
1 point for every 1T naq is too much imo, a lot of times it's two people spamming attack with war/war and stealaing their own naq back and forth and it goes no where
1 point for every 1 level difference

xDaku wrote:Few things

IMO, remove the merc points OR limit the mercs that the higher level has compared to lower level. In war/war mercs die fast enough and at that point all that matters is who has the most mercs stocked up with someone else or how the market is at the time which just has too much chance involved to judge skill.

Discuss

Second, a UU cap is needed. Reasoning - Person with lower covert level zeroes the higher AC person first. Kills 10m spies as that's all that's needed to defend on a cov 40 versus say 40m spies on a 37. The person with the 40 then zeroes the person after, and takes about 10m of those 40m spies. Halfway through killing the spies, the person with the lower level buys 1 def weapons. The person with 40 can still spam like 15 times without noticing, and only lose 2-3m UU at max in this scenario. The payoff isn't great.

My suggestion for that - 50m UU less for the person with the higher AC level per AC level difference. It'll balance out the difference really well I think, and show who the better onliner is a little clearer.

Prehaps, but if the attacker removes enough defence to then have a crack at AC and still has time to train AC whilst the defender does not untrain covert or train higher then it deserves that 10m spies for a point. I see your point, the differentials in AC are difficult as in an onliner, the savings of UU are greater. Differential in UU to equate to 50m? Discuss

Remove the naq count, or FM suggested on msn to give 1 point for most naq stolen at the end. Reason for this - during war/war, a lot of times when both people are spamming at the same time it's the same naq being transferred back and forth and it just makes the point system per 1T naq obsolete.

Agreed, changed for now. If anybody thinks it should return, feel free to suggest

2 Points for lower MS since there's no counter to that.

Disagree, once the MS is down, it adds little difference unless on small defences and that's the option of the defender

I think beyond that we'll have to look at cost differences, the players I personally wanna face are all 39's 40's with 100T defs unfortunately And I don't really see any of them lowering that to a decent level.

Probably a few test runs on lower att/defences and go with some fine tuning from there!

IMO a 10T def at start is the best one to go with, I think 10-20T defs show the most skill as it's not too heavy on the strikes for either party and leaves the smaller levels with some UU to play with and move around (versus 80T def onliners where the higher level almost always wins).

We can come up with suggestions later. I want to keep it up to the players. Some like big and some don't

EDIT: and forgot, no UU purchases in the onliner, that just obliterates the whole skill aspect of it into a who has the bigger bank competition lol

Agreed

And 1 point per level, it does make a big difference when the defending part HAS to have a bigger def against a decent opponent who knows what he's doing.

Still for discussion

xDaku wrote:Another option is to just fight without MSes, simple stat-to-stat fighting would be cool.

Field Marshall wrote:

xDaku wrote:Another option is to just fight without MSes, simple stat-to-stat fighting would be cool.

Potentially, going right back to basics. Disallow sabbing and ACing?