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Re: next round of updates

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:04 pm
by thorsworld1
just done ppt

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Re: next round of updates

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:35 pm
by mephis
Forum wrote:ok i think the turns from 'get free turns' on existing market was bugged...gave 3x as much as should have. ah well - too late now :) I will leave that bug be....The new amount will give about the same total turns using all market turns.

The PPT uses 1 market turn now. I mixed up 'quantity 4' and '4 market turns' ... fixed.

The PPT is expenseive - and a 'free' PPT is now available....using 3 MT. This should give benefit to the resource to get PPT (1 turn) and the small players (3MT no resources).

The GnR options now cost 1 MT each (from 2) ...

The market rates will carry over to main when update comes ... ie right now:
MAIN:
79,800,000,000 Naquadah for 531 Turns for 77,000 Mining Drone/Lifers
DEV :
547,500,000,000 Naquadah for 740 Turns for 101,250 Mining Drone/Lifers

Ideally I'd have adjusted it slowly for inflation, but its now gonna be one big change. Yup - things cost more. BUT ... if people use turns/UU to get naq, and more naq goes on the market, the ratios will change....I will (from now on) update the 'base naq amount' more slowly, maybe monthly....Have to figure out a formula even to creep it up daily :)

Again - comments....


Is the Free PPT costing 3mts not abit much? would 2 not be more feesiable?

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:44 pm
by Forum
regads cost of PPT - i quite like the 'tough choices' of resource or MT ... either way it costs -- but opportunity cost... so its not a 'big account; little account' issue... just needs and wants and such...

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:40 am
by Field Marshall
Forum wrote:regads cost of PPT - i quite like the 'tough choices' of resource or MT ... either way it costs -- but opportunity cost... so its not a 'big account; little account' issue... just needs and wants and such...


Me too, we've had it good for so long. I also agree with the increased PPT cost. Makes the game a war game and not a game of chase.

Sorry guys but I do :-D

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:31 am
by Norbe
Any chance of checkboxes on the MT options? It sucks to accidentally use 3 MTs on something you dont want when you are browsing on a phone.

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:17 am
by GeneralChaos
GNR option: Use 1 market turns and 1000 Glory & Reputation for 250,000 Ascended Points on your Ascended Account ( GeneralChaos )


Now, my name in ascended is not GeneralChaos, so does this link properly, you said the dev server was taken from about 3 weeks ago, but my name in ascended has been changed for months??

Im sure there are plenty of others with the same issue.

How does this new PPT work then?

Trade for 1/4 of market supporter status, but you can get it with 1 MT, ( so cost is x4 sounds fair ) so technically you can have 2 PPT's per week and still have 4 MT's to use?

Glory filled Defense Weapons acquired! Note that nobody knows how these weapons work, where exactly they came from, or how to fix them....
At the time of acquisition - with your glory used - all existing weapons and all new weapons of this type fully repaired...Its glory-magic!


This can be exploited, someone builds a massive strike, goes massing, and all the have to do is buy 1000 of these weapons and there weapons are fixed?????


Join the Weekly Lottery:
Jackpot: 486,000,000,000,000 and growing! You currently have 0 tickets.


Is this active yet, i bought 5 tickets and it said i havent gotten anything, how is the winner going to be decided, surely there should be a limit on how many you can buy, else whats to stop me buy 100 tickets where as others can only afford 1, if you win does it go into your bank, or PM you asking you to accept reward.....

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:48 pm
by Lokiā„¢
GeneralChaos wrote:
GNR option: Use 1 market turns and 1000 Glory & Reputation for 250,000 Ascended Points on your Ascended Account ( GeneralChaos )


Now, my name in ascended is not GeneralChaos, so does this link properly, you said the dev server was taken from about 3 weeks ago, but my name in ascended has been changed for months??

Im sure there are plenty of others with the same issue.

How does this new PPT work then?

Trade for 1/4 of market supporter status, but you can get it with 1 MT, ( so cost is x4 sounds fair ) so technically you can have 2 PPT's per week and still have 4 MT's to use?

Glory filled Defense Weapons acquired! Note that nobody knows how these weapons work, where exactly they came from, or how to fix them....
At the time of acquisition - with your glory used - all existing weapons and all new weapons of this type fully repaired...Its glory-magic!


This can be exploited, someone builds a massive strike, goes massing, and all the have to do is buy 1000 of these weapons and there weapons are fixed?????


Join the Weekly Lottery:
Jackpot: 486,000,000,000,000 and growing! You currently have 0 tickets.


Is this active yet, i bought 5 tickets and it said i havent gotten anything, how is the winner going to be decided, surely there should be a limit on how many you can buy, else whats to stop me buy 100 tickets where as others can only afford 1, if you win does it go into your bank, or PM you asking you to accept reward.....

Could you post when it's distributed? I bought 100 tickets :-D

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:00 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
will there be more bank boosting options if PPT will cost more?

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:38 am
by Field Marshall
Ok, the super weapons are not going to work. With 1000 super weapons, to mass a 296,700 strength weapon. You are going to need around 4500ats to destroy it.

This is a major issue with NOX on, because it won't happen.

Sabbing will not work unless the player also has the super strike weapons, because they have a massive value and you will just find yourself bashing the attack weapons.

Currently, as it stands, nobody will be able to efficently mass my 100t defence without trying to AC through. You need to massively fine tune this or call it stargatepeace :smt019

If you are going to proceed with this, remove NOX.

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:07 am
by GeneralChaos
Field Marshall wrote:Ok, the super weapons are not going to work. With 1000 super weapons, to mass a 296,700 strength weapon. You are going to need around 4500ats to destroy it.

This is a major issue with NOX on, because it won't happen.

Sabbing will not work unless the player also has the super strike weapons, because they have a massive value and you will just find yourself bashing the attack weapons.

Currently, as it stands, nobody will be able to efficently mass my 100t defence without trying to AC through. You need to massively fine tune this or call it stargatepeace :smt019

If you are going to proceed with this, remove NOX.



He cant remove NOX because then someone who cannot afford these weapons, will never beable to mass anyone who has them down,

Maybe he should make it that, as no one knows how to fix these weapons, they take double damage.

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:19 am
by Field Marshall
GeneralChaos wrote:
Field Marshall wrote:Ok, the super weapons are not going to work. With 1000 super weapons, to mass a 296,700 strength weapon. You are going to need around 4500ats to destroy it.

This is a major issue with NOX on, because it won't happen.

Sabbing will not work unless the player also has the super strike weapons, because they have a massive value and you will just find yourself bashing the attack weapons.

Currently, as it stands, nobody will be able to efficently mass my 100t defence without trying to AC through. You need to massively fine tune this or call it stargatepeace :smt019

If you are going to proceed with this, remove NOX.



He cant remove NOX because then someone who cannot afford these weapons, will never beable to mass anyone who has them down,

Maybe he should make it that, as no one knows how to fix these weapons, they take double damage.


Triple, minimum.

Going to run some tests with NOX and these blasted weps, but if I can't mass someone. I will probably quit.

Oh and to put it into perspective, I got 40k of these points. You can consider me at rank 1 for life it this goes live - and I hate that.

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:08 am
by Sadow
:-k

- increase damage taken by 2.5x what it is now
- increase probability of sabotage picking up these weapons first
- if war/war damage taken increases to 5x
- if nox is on, they take 5x damage

8-[

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:11 am
by Empy
Field Marshall wrote:
Forum wrote:regads cost of PPT - i quite like the 'tough choices' of resource or MT ... either way it costs -- but opportunity cost... so its not a 'big account; little account' issue... just needs and wants and such...


Me too, we've had it good for so long. I also agree with the increased PPT cost. Makes the game a war game and not a game of chase.

Sorry guys but I do :-D
The point of a PPT is not everyone can actively spend 7 days a week on this game, if you don't you get farmed a lot and bad things happen when you're not looking. The point of PPT is you get 4 days a week off if you want them, so you can spend 4 max enjoying not playing this game, then spend 3 farming/massing whatever.

You don't have to use PPT, you can spend all 7 playing if you want. If someone else does PPT 4 days a week, well tough **Filtered** sucks for you they have other things to do.

To be honest PPT should be free and cost 1 or 2 MTs. It's just something that has to be there for people who aren't hardcore and don't sit at their computer playing this for hours every day. By making PPT cost more MTs or Naq you help no one, and hurt everyone. How is that good for the game?

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:05 pm
by _Rube_Dragon_
oh gosh d[O.O]b .... when will we be seeing this change?

Re: next round of updates

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:05 pm
by Field Marshall
Empy wrote:
Field Marshall wrote:
Forum wrote:regads cost of PPT - i quite like the 'tough choices' of resource or MT ... either way it costs -- but opportunity cost... so its not a 'big account; little account' issue... just needs and wants and such...


Me too, we've had it good for so long. I also agree with the increased PPT cost. Makes the game a war game and not a game of chase.

Sorry guys but I do :-D
The point of a PPT is not everyone can actively spend 7 days a week on this game, if you don't you get farmed a lot and bad things happen when you're not looking. The point of PPT is you get 4 days a week off if you want them, so you can spend 4 max enjoying not playing this game, then spend 3 farming/massing whatever.

You don't have to use PPT, you can spend all 7 playing if you want. If someone else does PPT 4 days a week, well tough **Filtered** sucks for you they have other things to do.

To be honest PPT should be free and cost 1 or 2 MTs. It's just something that has to be there for people who aren't hardcore and don't sit at their computer playing this for hours every day. By making PPT cost more MTs or Naq you help no one, and hurt everyone. How is that good for the game?


Just buy some super defence weps and you won't need to!

....and no Empy it's no tough **Filtered** for me, ATM it's tough **Filtered** for you. Just saying, I like that idea, not everyone has to agree with you. What's more, you can PPT twice, look at the options again before you get on that high horse :)