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Glad to see there is some common sense still left in the world. i'm happy for the man but obviously it would be better if the child had never suffered this kind of vile trauma and the father didn't have to end this sickos life.

While it is good that no charges have been brought against the father given that his account of what happened is backed up by the evidence collected

I feel it is important to highlight that what has happened is not justice, it was vengeance, which is quite a dangerous thing to accept as a legal excuse for such behaviour

Seems like this sort of thing is only allowed when you catch them in the act ... too bad

Kit-Fox wrote:While it is good that no charges have been brought against the father given that his account of what happened is backed up by the evidence collected

I feel it is important to highlight that what has happened is not justice, it was vengence, which is quite a dangerous thing to accept as a legal excuse for such behaviour

Apparently you didn't read the article. The father caught the man in the act, and beat him to stop the assault. This is lawful self defense.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18522383



Glad to see there is some common sense still left in the world. i'm happy for the man but obviously it would be better if the child had never suffered this kind of vile trauma and the father didn't have to end this sickos life.

+1

Dovahkiin wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:While it is good that no charges have been brought against the father given that his account of what happened is backed up by the evidence collected

I feel it is important to highlight that what has happened is not justice, it was vengence, which is quite a dangerous thing to accept as a legal excuse for such behaviour

Apparently you didn't read the article. The father caught the man in the act, and beat him to stop the assault. This is lawful self defense.

That doesnt make it justice, its still vengeance.

Apparently you failed to read my post & understand it

EDIT: You know what, why bother, you're just arguing to be an ass and to try and stimulate conflict like you usually do. You know there is a clear difference between a legally accepted excuse & Justice and if anyone else had said it you wouldnt be acting in such a manner. With that in mind there is no point in continuing, as its pointless to talk to someone who is clearly lacking in the ability to understand simple concepts.

And apparently you fail to English.

It is not vengeance, it is self defense.

Kit-Fox wrote:

Dovahkiin wrote:

Kit-Fox wrote:While it is good that no charges have been brought against the father given that his account of what happened is backed up by the evidence collected

I feel it is important to highlight that what has happened is not justice, it was vengence, which is quite a dangerous thing to accept as a legal excuse for such behaviour

Apparently you didn't read the article. The father caught the man in the act, and beat him to stop the assault. This is lawful self defense.

That doesnt make it justice, its still vengence.

Apparently you failed to read my post & understand it

EDIT: You know what, why bother, you're just arguing to be an ass and to try and stimulate conflict like you usually do. You know there is a clear difference between a legally accepted excuse & Justice and if anyone else had said it you wouldnt be acting in such a manner. With that in mind there is no point in continuing, as its pointless to talk to someone who is clearly lacking in the ability to understand simple concepts.

dude, you ain't got kids have you? If I found some bloke doing that to one of mine I'd rip his head off his shoulders in blind fury... thats what happens when you see the most precious thing you have ever created being hurt by some piece of filth, death is too good for that dude, there isn't a punishment bad enough for what he was doing to that child!!

As a father of 3 boys and someone who came VERY close to being raped myself as a kid....i'm with Jack and Eelyzabth on this.

@KF, death IS far to good for this complete and utter sicko, having said that, IF-god forbid-you found someone committing such a vial act with any kid let alone your own-do you seriously think you would be able to hold on to any thought other than ending their life? if you think you are capable of being able to have any kind of rational thought in such a situation then you are FAR better person than most of us.

PS, i don't know if you have history with Jack in other parts of the forum KF, but there's no need to talk like that. after all, i would like to think being in this part of the forum we can all have adult and sensible discussions regardless of the subject matter

@KF, i know the P in PM stands for private, but i would love to be able to respond mate.


Thanks!

Avenger and Liz seem to be making a slightly different argument. So I feel I need to clarify.

My argument was NOT an act of revenge. It was a justified use of deadly force in the defense of the actor's child. What this means is that actor found the attacker in the process of raping the actor's daughter. He then used force to subdue the attacker in order to stop the attack. The attacker subsequently died as a result of the force. The death was not intentional, the intent was purely to stop the attack. That is what differentiates this from vigilantism and what qualifies this case as justifiable homicide.

If this was a case of vigilantism, the actor would be charged at minimum with involuntary manslaughter.

KitFox is merely buying into the media's sensationalization of this incident.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:PS, i don't know if you have history with Jack in other parts of the forum KF, but there's no need to talk like that. after all, i would like to think being in this part of the forum we can all have adult and sensible discussions regardless of the subject matter

No, he's just self-important and think everything is about him personally.

personally i think these sickos should have all sorts of objects way to big to fit in them forced in them at then end of the day they should be tortured to death i can not stand them and how people defend them gets me really angry. they ruin peoples lifes and im glad the dad wasnt charged

personally i think he should still be charged with man slaughter although having the defence that he prevented rape and was clearly driven by emotions flying high but in no way would I agree with an eye for an eye law or anything that suggested such.

Most of these posts i've read have been emotionally driven thoughts and feelings because these things fuel that but you cannot base law on emotionally formed opinions.

GrizzZzzly wrote:personally i think he should still be charged with man slaughter although having the defence that he prevented rape and was clearly driven by emotions flying high but in no way would I agree with an eye for an eye law or anything that suggested such.

this is whats wrong with the world today criminals have rights pffft

You know i defy anyone to tell me where I have said the father did the wrong thing, or that he should be charged, or that the rapist should have got away with what he was doing

Go ahead, please show in quotes where I have said those things in previous posts


I havent and it really doesnt matter what I think on the subject, it simply isnt Justice. It is at best legally accepted vengeance by the father against the rapist.

Not that I personally disagree with the actions taken by the father, but that still doesnt make it Justice


FFS some people really need to work on their ability to;

- Read
- Comprehend what was written
- Understand what Justice is