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Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:51 am
by Drahazar
I first heard this term back when the server wars were going on. I figured it simply meant, "anyone farming a server war side" I now understand it means, "anyone who farms when the player is at war".

Humor me if you will, but; This is the way i see it:

If you are at war you are making the choice to have 0 on a regular basis
If you have a 0 defense you are far more likely to be farmed

thus
If you are at war you are more likely to be farmed.

The only variable for a person getting farmed is the defensive strength, and this variable is controlled not by the farmer but by the player who is getting farmed.

I treat the everyone in the server the same, if its profitable, its fair, so i will hit people at war whose defense is not sufficient to protect their naq and i'm really getting annoyed that people still can't see that the only change in the farming equation to get (naq > defense = profit) to (naq < defense = non profit) is for them to build a defense that makes it unprofitable for the other person to farm them, or they reduce their income to a point where it doesn't cross the threshold of the profitable hit line.

So, am i a fair farmer for treating everyone equally, or, am i a vulture?

[spoiler]P.S Imagine a boxer that drew a big bulls eye on his face and didn't block an incoming punch and he lost the fight, would it be his fault or not? If the boxer then beat up his opponant in the parking lot for winning the fight would that be right or not?

hint, its a metaphor for massing a farmer who farms you when you have done nothing to stop the farmer from farming, you may have shouted abuse at him or told him not to, but you have done nothing to protect yourself or block the hit.[/spoiler]

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:57 am
by Kjarkur
Crawl back into whatever hole you crawled up from, damn vulture !

Joke! :-D

I have not participated much in this "vulture this or vulture that" discussions

For me a vulture is someone who only dares farming for naq when active players are down after being massed. Can't hold his own, and cowardly snipes and vultures to make his way in this game.
Random farming is quite different IMO.

For example... if I would wait until all of alliance X had been massed, then farm then all and not have anything built to protect myself from loosing any stats. I'd be a vulture.

If I farm them like I always do, but do continue playing otherwise and have stats built incase they feel like retaliating. I'm not really a vulture because I'm risking loosing more then I gained.

Each to their own I guess. I'm not gonna try and dictate how other people play. If it works for them... then great.

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:07 am
by Angnoch
honestly I don't see why people complain about this, instead of your direct enemy getting your naq a random unaffiliated person is getting it and using it outside your war, whats wrong with that?

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:11 am
by Kjarkur
Angnoch wrote:honestly I don't see why people complain about this, instead of your direct enemy getting your naq a random unaffiliated person is getting it and using it outside your war, whats wrong with that?


If my memory serves me correctly, this whole vulture thing started because people were trying to cause wars between major alliances so they could farm them and gain profit.

So to prevent them from trying to cause chaos for profit - the major alliances declared war on vultures. So that if major wars started, most players wouldn't all jump in and start the heavy farming.

It's the same old story, someone abuses something and the others take it to extreme to prevent it from happening again.

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:18 am
by ~Coyle~
If someone has a zero defense wether at war or not i will farm them. This Vulture business is nonsense

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:23 am
by Juliette
Naq is naq is naq.

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:31 am
by InR
~Coyle~ wrote:If someone has a zero defense wether at war or not i will farm them. This Vulture business is nonsense


will now check FS, since you guys are at war...nothing personal just non-business stuff :smt025

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:33 am
by xDaku
InR wrote:
~Coyle~ wrote:If someone has a zero defense wether at war or not i will farm them. This Vulture business is nonsense


will now check FS, since you guys are at war...nothing personal just non-business stuff :smt025


We mass. :-D

Juliette wrote:Naq is naq is naq.


Mass is mass is mass. Your point? ;)

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:37 am
by InR
xDaku wrote:
InR wrote:
~Coyle~ wrote:If someone has a zero defense wether at war or not i will farm them. This Vulture business is nonsense


will now check FS, since you guys are at war...nothing personal just non-business stuff :smt025


We mass. :-D


now that's the spirit :) is it free? :smt025 hehehe
just joking around :)

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:39 am
by Bromas
Well, when we where in a war and you farmed us it was fine, but when we farm you and you're in a war we're vultures and you mass us :S

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:40 am
by xDaku
InR wrote:
xDaku wrote:
InR wrote:
~Coyle~ wrote:If someone has a zero defense wether at war or not i will farm them. This Vulture business is nonsense


will now check FS, since you guys are at war...nothing personal just non-business stuff :smt025


We mass. :-D


now that's the spirit :) is it free? :smt025 hehehe
just joking around :)


:smt060

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:43 am
by InR
at some point i wanted to join FS, thats why i cant be mad at you guys :smt019

:smt050

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:56 am
by Juliette
xDaku wrote:
Juliette wrote:Naq is naq is naq.
Mass is mass is mass. Your point? ;)
My point.. well.. I suppose I did have one. It is that war or peace, win or lose, naq is naq, and naq will be taken. :P

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:58 am
by Kjarkur
My question to you is, do you care if your a vulture or not ?

My personal opinion (and despite what people may think) does not reflect the opinion of the whole community :-$ is that you are not a vulture, cause for me a vulture is a bit different.

Re: Am i a Vuture?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:58 am
by Juliette
Kjarkur wrote:My question to you is, do you care if your a vulture or not ?
Alternatively, who could make you care, and where can we find him. ;)