massing lmiits

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massing speed should be:

Poll ended at Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:43 pm

1 per second
6
11%
3 per second (like new setup live now)
21
40%
6 per second
2
4%
10 per second
1
2%
way more or unlimited
23
43%
other (comment in thread)
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Re: massing lmiits

Calibretto wrote:Its rediculous. remove the cap. whats next, put a cap on my eyeblinking?

This happens only at war/war. and everyone tries to evade a war/war setting.

Yea


and Sol, it does not happen with nox. You have to be dumb, as nox is like 4 to 6 second delay in attacks.
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Dmonix wrote:I guess the idea behind this update is fairly simple, protect people without nox from being rolled over

Maybe if it were thrown away for war/war settings because I've defended against Field Marshall twice and against xDaku, the gap is long enough for me to repair, sell excess weapons and bank in between the floods of hits.

I know I've got pretty terrible net connection compared to most in the community but I shouldn't be able to protect my weapons like this for so long with a war/war setting


Yea, it's a copy of massing through nox. 10-20 per, possibly.
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Re: massing lmiits

Forum wrote:not to stiffle the creative comments...but...

dont have a ladyboy ;) not 100% sure what that is, but then again i am not pansexual.

did testing myself with zero internet lag and holding enter key till it 'autorepeated' on attack submit to get the (almost) 300 in a second or so. (had to use glory weapons so they did not die too quick although a 2nd computer doing repair would work too)

did not get 'info' from any group. i have the entire server i can look at...

the biggest issue in my mind is that the ability to 'speed mass' using keyboard button hold is not consistent across pages, or browsers. Only specific browsers do it, on specific pages. Its more a bug that allows it, than a feature built in to do it.

thus the limit. So the question is 'what should the limit be' ....

seems reasonable to me ....

even if you are able to hit 300 times a second that person has to repair also so that will give them a few seconds to repair there is no need for this 300 hits a second can back fire in a hurry

in e.x your massing a 50t def with a 60t strike you do the "glitch" of hitting 300 times a second if you hold it to long your weps will destroy themselfs and your strike will go under there def thus massing your strike

some ppl have found fast ways of onlineing thats there "skill"/"trick" let them have there tricks limiting how many hits can go on per second will just make every account the same thus making the game boring because no one is different there will be no amazing person anymore and thats what keeps this game going
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Re: massing lmiits

of course the attacks go through faster when on the server directly, there's no internet lag to contend with.

But really what's the point, i spent the last few hrs trying to point out the humongous flaws in this new update that no one apart from DDE have had any say in, what did i get for my troubles? Accusations of being Bias because i was in OE a year ago, when i pointed out that when you have a 6 attacks every 2 second cap plus a 40 attacks every 20s cap, that means you can land the 40 attacks in 13.3 seconds, then are forced to wait until 20s is up before you can attack again, meaning there is a 6.7s window when the attacker cannot even land any attacks, making it practically impossible to EVER mass anyone if they are online.

So basically you ruined all the online fights in 1 update that no one apart from DDE had any say in being introduced.

You know what the DDE leaders response was to my clear and logical comments? Came on MSN and ranted about ETL buying Covert 41 and increasing his TOC on ascended massively, added in a few choice insults about me being a OE lackey then blocked me.

So with all due respect Jason, stuff this update and stuff this game, the people who are whining to you about being massed are pathetic and cannot take being massed, they accuse people of cheating rather than accepting that when you have war:war with an enemy then no matter what your levels are, you CAN be massed very very fast by people who are well practised.

The game does not need to be changed to pander to people who are unable to accept that an enemy can successfully mass them.

Being able to mass this fast has been part of browser tech for years now, at some point you just have to turn round and say, hey, you know what, you just lost your def and spies, suck it up big boy!
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Re: massing lmiits

Borek wrote:of course the attacks go through faster when on the server directly, there's no internet lag to contend with.

But really what's the point, i spent the last few hrs trying to point out the humongous flaws in this new update that no one apart from DDE have had any say in, what did i get for my troubles? Accusations of being Bias because i was in OE a year ago, when i pointed out that when you have a 6 attacks every 2 second cap plus a 40 attacks every 20s cap, that means you can land the 40 attacks in 13.3 seconds, then are forced to wait until 20s is up before you can attack again, meaning there is a 6.7s window when the attacker cannot even land any attacks, making it practically impossible to EVER mass anyone if they are online.

So basically you ruined all the online fights in 1 update that no one apart from DDE had any say in being introduced.

You know what the DDE leaders response was to my clear and logical comments? Came on MSN and ranted about ETL buying Covert 41 and increasing his TOC on ascended massively, added in a few choice insults about me being a OE lackey then blocked me.

So with all due respect Jason, stuff this update and stuff this game, the people who are whining to you about being massed are pathetic and cannot take being massed, they accuse people of cheating rather than accepting that when you have war:war with an enemy then no matter what your levels are, you CAN be massed very very fast by people who are well practised.

The game does not need to be changed to pander to people who are unable to accept that an enemy can successfully mass them.

Being able to mass this fast has been part of browser tech for years now, at some point you just have to turn round and say, hey, you know what, you just lost your def and spies, suck it up big boy!

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Re: massing lmiits

I guess the problem comes when you hold down enter on one computer and repair on another. Then it comes to better hardware vs. actual planning. Solution?

Set a high limit, very high, so that the damn delay message never pops up for someone using the current technique on one computer, but for someone holding the button for a minute straight, well, that's not gonna work.

Something like 50 hits per second, would limit otherwise impossible attacks, but still keep the current gameplay.

The current gameplay is fine, if you stick with one computer and use tabs quickly, well that's the whole fun. But if you've got auto clickers, a combination of auto refresh and auto click, working together, you get attacks going at insane speeds. That's a little over the top.

Don't need to change the gameplay to stop 300 hits per second you know. Even 100 per second, is way too much, 50 per second, a good limit.
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Oooo I like higher math

E=Mc2*SGW = ( ( U = A*S*S ) + ( JT + $$$ + E*G*O ) ) + ( FS = AWESOME + Infinity ). Therefor FS -> DDE :D
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Turning your dreams into nightmares is what we do, heed this warning and pass it on, else you will forget your serenity forever

Blood in 2012 - Updated 1st Sep, 2012:
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Attack Soldiers killed: 32,934,122
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016

Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
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Borek wrote:of course the attacks go through faster when on the server directly, there's no internet lag to contend with.

But really what's the point, i spent the last few hrs trying to point out the humongous flaws in this new update that no one apart from DDE have had any say in, what did i get for my troubles? Accusations of being Bias because i was in OE a year ago, when i pointed out that when you have a 6 attacks every 2 second cap plus a 40 attacks every 20s cap, that means you can land the 40 attacks in 13.3 seconds, then are forced to wait until 20s is up before you can attack again, meaning there is a 6.7s window when the attacker cannot even land any attacks, making it practically impossible to EVER mass anyone if they are online.

So basically you ruined all the online fights in 1 update that no one apart from DDE had any say in being introduced.

You know what the DDE leaders response was to my clear and logical comments? Came on MSN and ranted about ETL buying Covert 41 and increasing his TOC on ascended massively, added in a few choice insults about me being a OE lackey then blocked me.

So with all due respect Jason, stuff this update and stuff this game, the people who are whining to you about being massed are pathetic and cannot take being massed, they accuse people of cheating rather than accepting that when you have war:war with an enemy then no matter what your levels are, you CAN be massed very very fast by people who are well practised.

The game does not need to be changed to pander to people who are unable to accept that an enemy can successfully mass them.

Being able to mass this fast has been part of browser tech for years now, at some point you just have to turn round and say, hey, you know what, you just lost your def and spies, suck it up big boy!

beautiful :shock:

You said a mouthful yet you fail to consider the game was changed because of our play style in the server war....ouch that hurt ](*,) Well practices? Tape down enter bla bla bla bla....as the man said browsers have allot to do with "well practiced" this is also a script killer..I think that is being missed in all of this...as well as other data collected that prompted admin to make a move.

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I can understand if DDE proposed this if they were fighting HVE that have lots of noobs and newbies beating the frak out of DDE.

But here you have 2 warring empires since the dawn of this game fighting each other. With both empires knowing all the tricks to the game and all the skill people have built up.

But having 1 empire say its too fast cause they cant keep up in a war, they cry foul and cheaters and muilties, script users and the whole 9 yards.
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I can understand script killing as an excuse but still from having the update tested against me 3 times in a row I can say it isn't great, the only reason my defense was 0'd in the end was because of sabbing and nothing else.

xDaku should've had my defense when he first attacked because I was distracted looking somewhere else, when I refreshed I had a few seconds to repair still. At the moment it is too slow

As someone on the defending end of this update I disagree with it, my net is too slow to notice it on the attacking end but I assume it's worse since I got bored and annoyed with it defending
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Rudy Pena wrote:I can understand if DDE proposed this if they were fighting HVE that have lots of noobs and newbies beating the frak out of DDE.

But here you have 2 warring empires since the dawn of this game fighting each other. With both empires knowing all the tricks to the game and all the skill people have built up.

But having 1 empire say its too fast cause they cant keep up in a war, they cry foul and cheaters and muilties, script users and the whole 9 yards.

Rudy, take a look at yourself and your alliance. Stop with that dribble. We collectively caught flaws not just from incoming attacks, but from outgoing as well ](*,) duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You really should quit this game, you take it way too personal. Besides you dont play. :smt017
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Dmonix wrote:I can understand script killing as an excuse but still from having the update tested against me 3 times in a row I can say it isn't great, the only reason my defense was 0'd in the end was because of sabbing and nothing else.

xDaku should've had my defense when he first attacked because I was distracted looking somewhere else, when I refreshed I had a few seconds to repair still. At the moment it is too slow

As someone on the defending end of this update I disagree with it, my net is too slow to notice it on the attacking end but I assume it's worse since I got bored and annoyed with it defending

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You know what, this is just abnormal.

Can you please add, in that case also extra attacks for people with a laggy internetconnection. Cuz they should be able to play this game as it should be....i dont even know what should be anymore.

so had it with this fu cki ng crap
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Dmonix wrote:I can understand script killing as an excuse but still from having the update tested against me 3 times in a row I can say it isn't great, the only reason my defense was 0'd in the end was because of sabbing and nothing else.

xDaku should've had my defense when he first attacked because I was distracted looking somewhere else, when I refreshed I had a few seconds to repair still. At the moment it is too slow

As someone on the defending end of this update I disagree with it, my net is too slow to notice it on the attacking end but I assume it's worse since I got bored and annoyed with it defending

The current setting is too slow for sure.
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Jedi~Tank wrote:
Vintage King wrote:
Borek wrote:of course the attacks go through faster when on the server directly, there's no internet lag to contend with.

But really what's the point, i spent the last few hrs trying to point out the humongous flaws in this new update that no one apart from DDE have had any say in, what did i get for my troubles? Accusations of being Bias because i was in OE a year ago, when i pointed out that when you have a 6 attacks every 2 second cap plus a 40 attacks every 20s cap, that means you can land the 40 attacks in 13.3 seconds, then are forced to wait until 20s is up before you can attack again, meaning there is a 6.7s window when the attacker cannot even land any attacks, making it practically impossible to EVER mass anyone if they are online.

So basically you ruined all the online fights in 1 update that no one apart from DDE had any say in being introduced.

You know what the DDE leaders response was to my clear and logical comments? Came on MSN and ranted about ETL buying Covert 41 and increasing his TOC on ascended massively, added in a few choice insults about me being a OE lackey then blocked me.

So with all due respect Jason, stuff this update and stuff this game, the people who are whining to you about being massed are pathetic and cannot take being massed, they accuse people of cheating rather than accepting that when you have war:war with an enemy then no matter what your levels are, you CAN be massed very very fast by people who are well practised.

The game does not need to be changed to pander to people who are unable to accept that an enemy can successfully mass them.

Being able to mass this fast has been part of browser tech for years now, at some point you just have to turn round and say, hey, you know what, you just lost your def and spies, suck it up big boy!

beautiful :shock:

You said a mouthful yet you fail to consider the game was changed because of our play style in the server war....ouch that hurt ](*,) Well practices? Tape down enter bla bla bla bla....as the man said browsers have allot to do with "well practiced" this is also a script killer..I think that is being missed in all of this...as well as other data collected that prompted admin to make a move.

If the shoe fits wear it, if it dont then you have nothing to whine about.

well your shoe doesnt fit then it must be way to big just like your ego because currently your the one whineing
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Re: massing lmiits

Jedi~Tank wrote:
Dmonix wrote:I can understand script killing as an excuse but still from having the update tested against me 3 times in a row I can say it isn't great, the only reason my defense was 0'd in the end was because of sabbing and nothing else.

xDaku should've had my defense when he first attacked because I was distracted looking somewhere else, when I refreshed I had a few seconds to repair still. At the moment it is too slow

As someone on the defending end of this update I disagree with it, my net is too slow to notice it on the attacking end but I assume it's worse since I got bored and annoyed with it defending

The current setting is too slow for sure.
read what he said, you frak wit.

He said this new update.
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