Colorado, Washington approve recreational marijuana use.

[Legendary Apophis]

Liberal nonsense always pushes itself in.

You've lost me Jim, what does this have to do with which political ideology one supports?

It's not a matter of Democrat or Republican, because you likely have Democrats who are opposed to it (conservative democrats who would be conservative for society values but totally agreeing with democrats' economic policy/welfare/domestic policy), while you have Republicans who are in favor, even though the latter usually become Libertarians because Libertarians (liberal for both economy and society) are in favor of legalization.

Politics aren't limited to one line, it's determined by two things, think about the political compass: stance on the domestic policy and society on the one hand, stance on economy/taxes on the other. Libertarians are liberal in both. Conservative democrats aren't liberal in any. Republicans are usually liberal-conservative, conservative for domestic/society (well they are usually conservative for society values like same-sex marriage, adoption for same sex and legalizing drugs and more towards a small state than a big state) and liberal for economy. Finally you have democratic liberals, who are liberal for society but not necessarily domestic policy (depends on particular points) and not really liberal to not at all for economy.

Economically I am in the middle between Obama and Romney, for foreign and environment I am closer to Obama while for society values, a part of domestic values, security and immigration I am very close to Mitt Romney. That tells you it's maybe more complicated than the explanation I gave above, but closer to this than a simple split democrat/republican.

I am completely sorry but I need to point out that you are wrong Jim, a TRUE Republican is a person who believes in a small centralized government that his little to no say in a persons daily life. The republican party as it stands now is a completely corrupted and pathetic excuse for what it was supposed to stand for. Politics as I see it has no place determining what is socially acceptable, and anyone who tells you otherwise has an agenda of their own.

Then I am clearly siding with the "false" republicans mainstream establishment because except economics and social which I am more center than right, I stand with Romney and McCain on many societal/security/domestic/immigration policies. I am conservative after all (defend traditional family -not saying I am against relationships before marriage though-, tough against drugs, rather strict on immigration, against liberal political correctness...). Probably due to me being french right wing person leading me to agree much more with Romney than with libertarians.
I would have very little to agree with your idea of "TRUE" republican, if anything at all...(80-85% agreeing with Romney on ISideWith, 30% with Gary Johnson libertarian candidate)

[Shezmu]

I'm all for legalization because people are going to do it anyway and the waste of money spent fighting it, incarcerating people over it and ruining their lives is not worth it or ethical when cigarettes and alcohol are still legal and they do far more harm in general to society and the individual.

It all starts with the lousy public education system and the conditioning of our youth to believe every thing they are told and to fall in line or else. The system produces sheep.

[[BoT] Jason]

...cigarettes and alcohol are still legal and they do far more harm in general to society and the individual.

I'd argue that they cause so much damage due to their social acceptance and abundant availability...

[[KMA]Avenger]

...cigarettes and alcohol are still legal and they do far more harm in general to society and the individual.

I'd argue that they cause so much damage due to their social acceptance and abundant availability...

And i would argue that it's down to the individual to be mentally strong enough not to try those things since we are far more educated and aware of the dangers of smoking and excessive drinking, and mentally strong enough not to give into peer pressure.
As i said before, it's down to choice and the right to choose. nobody has the right the moral high ground to tell me what my choices should be.

Either we are free or lets stop pretending we are anything but managed and governed. you cannot be a little pregnant, you either are or you are not.

Most people would agree (accept those 2 clowns who want socialism) that freedom is a good thing and worth fighting for, well then, let me have my freedom to choose.

[Legendary Apophis]

We will agree to disagree I suppose...

[[KMA]Avenger]

We will agree to disagree I suppose...

It's not about whether we agree or not, or even trying to convince each other is it's good or bad, it's about choice and the right to choose. saying marijuana should remain illegal takes away my choice to smoke or use it as an alternative form of medicine.

1 side wants it to remain illegal...those who say that are trying to force that on the rest of us.
The other side wants it legalised or at the very least decriminalised, and about all of us having the choice to use it-for whatever reason. this side is not forcing itself on the other side since any substance use is down to choice. nobody is forcing anybody to change their habits simply because it's been made legal. and yet the side who are against it are trying to force that on the pro, but those who are pro are not forcing anything on anybody...see what i'm saying?

[Legendary Apophis]

We will agree to disagree about the policy to follow on the matter then.

I am aware that according to the libertarian ideology, I am, as well as Republican mainstream, considered as "fascists", but we will live with that, as this kind of accusation also comes from the radical left wing, for slightly different reasons though.

[[KMA]Avenger]

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