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ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:00 am
by Duderanch
What % of someones defense do you need in strike to successfully AC through?

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:03 am
by Juliette
Thought it took 100%? :)

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:33 am
by dip ship unknown
i think so aswell

i dont recomend i eather way

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:59 am
by RepliMagni
Not sure what it's like now, but it always used to be:

The amount of damage that can be done, is now modified by an attack/defence value when the attack is lower than the defence. In short, the effectiveness of the anti-covert is limited when the attack force is lower than the defence force. They simply do not have the same relative army to hide behind, in order to do their job...


In other words, a big AC lvl behind a smaller attack should still be able to AC through a big def with a limited C lvl. But I can't remember exact ratios.

Certainly, it is doable, and often the only way to bring down some of the bigger defs...

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:00 am
by Dexter Morgan™
RepliMagni wrote:Not sure what it's like now, but it always used to be:

The amount of damage that can be done, is now modified by an attack/defence value when the attack is lower than the defence. In short, the effectiveness of the anti-covert is limited when the attack force is lower than the defence force. They simply do not have the same relative army to hide behind, in order to do their job...


In other words, a big AC lvl behind a smaller attack should still be able to AC through a big def with a limited C lvl. But I can't remember exact ratios.

Certainly, it is doable, and often the only way to bring down some of the bigger defs...

^ This

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:05 am
by xDaku
If you can successfully get an attack through you can AC it.

Meaning, as long as you're not hitting "devastating damage", you should be able to do it. Think it's 35% of def as strike to get that done.

Don't remember the war/war percentage, and then ofcourse houses and stuff come in. (It might be 25% with war/war but I'm not 100% sure, don't remember anymore)

FM might remember this :razz:

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:33 am
by Kjarkur
xDaku wrote:If you can successfully get an attack through you can AC it.

Meaning, as long as you're not hitting "devastating damage", you should be able to do it. Think it's 35% of def as strike to get that done.

Don't remember the war/war percentage, and then ofcourse houses and stuff come in. (It might be 25% with war/war but I'm not 100% sure, don't remember anymore)

FM might remember this :razz:


Precisely.

and in SGW history this has been the method to take down the some of the largest defenses around. Not always but often specially before the 'supersize strike' option.

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:41 am
by Dexter Morgan™
Kjarkur wrote:
xDaku wrote:If you can successfully get an attack through you can AC it.

Meaning, as long as you're not hitting "devastating damage", you should be able to do it. Think it's 35% of def as strike to get that done.

Don't remember the war/war percentage, and then ofcourse houses and stuff come in. (It might be 25% with war/war but I'm not 100% sure, don't remember anymore)

FM might remember this :razz:


Precisely.

and in SGW history this has been the method to take down the some of the largest defenses around. Not always but often specially before the 'supersize strike' option.

I agree, being able to take 100 tril strikes, throw in another 10 tril MS damage, then double strike. Ouch. :smt100 :smt042

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:01 pm
by Ryuujin Jakka
i always.thought as long as ir ms.engages aka 30%? . and ur power is more than their power and.or equivilamt levels ak if ur acing 38 cov . at least 36 ac or its completly stupid o_O unsucessfullnwe could.say lol

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:10 pm
by Kikaz
Ryuujin Jakka wrote:i always.thought as long as ir ms.engages aka 30%? . and ur power is more than their power and.or equivilamt levels ak if ur acing 38 cov . at least 36 ac or its completly stupid o_O unsucessfullnwe could.say lol

Corecto.

If MS engages you used to be able to AC through defense.

(Haven't tried recently, tis a good question for feri.)

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:15 pm
by Ryuujin Jakka
**Filtered** me i need to pull.my.finger out and get use to typing.on this phone...

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:08 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
Ryuujin Jakka wrote:**Filtered** me i need to pull.my.finger out and get use to typing.on this phone...


:smt050

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:06 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:
Ryuujin Jakka wrote:**Filtered** me i need to pull.my.finger out and get use to typing.on this phone...


:smt050

Darn smart phones let people be online all day now lol. :o

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:05 pm
by moses
another person to ask is slayer he used to do this all the time ](*,)

Re: ACing through defense

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:11 pm
by R8
tis much more fun massing the defence down and eating the spies raw with no defence to protect them :-D