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Calc?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:12 pm
by Be4utiful_De4th
Is there a working calculator anywhere?

Re: Calc?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:35 pm
by ~Odin~

Re: Calc?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:46 pm
by Be4utiful_De4th
The betty calc never works. and im nervous about the other. the sabbing math always seems to be wrong.

Re: Calc?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:04 pm
by Sniperwax
Be4utiful_De4th wrote:The betty calc never works. and im nervous about the other. the sabbing math always seems to be wrong.
Never had any problems with the Betty Calc. Never tried sabbing with the other one. Are you certain that it was the calc and not inconsideration towards Alert Level?

Re: Calc?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:50 pm
by ~Odin~
Sniperwax wrote:
Be4utiful_De4th wrote:The betty calc never works. and im nervous about the other. the sabbing math always seems to be wrong.
Never had any problems with the Betty Calc. Never tried sabbing with the other one. Are you certain that it was the calc and not inconsideration towards Alert Level?
The betty calc always works for me, I use it several times a week and have never had any issues. What exactly are the issues you are encountering? If you can elaborate maybe we can figure out the issue you are having, maybe its more to do with your computer?

Re: Calc?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:06 am
by Kjarkur
BettyCalc hardly ever fails. It is quite good. Only problem it has is the crappy server it's hosted on.

-KJ

Re: Calc?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:35 pm
by Diregie
Jaime Lannister wrote:BettyCalc hardly ever fails. It is quite good. Only problem it has is the crappy server it's hosted on.

-KJ
this.

a few days ago server was down but there's always the mirror. :)

Re: Calc?

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:44 pm
by Be4utiful_De4th
I type the info it requests, and it tells me how many spies to use. I use said spies, it fails, half die. And yes i use the exact numbers I dont round off.

Happens every time.

one time it said i only need to send one spy. that's after 2 million failed.

Re: Calc?

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:05 pm
by agapooka
The best way to tell if a sab is going to succeed is to spy with the same amount of spies that you plan to sab with.

Recons are much more forgiving. If you see almost all of their stats, then you're probably safe.

To be even safer add a few extra (10%).

Keep in mind that spy levels are not as effective if there's a big gap and your spy level is much higher (more than 4 levels higher).


You need to know all of the following about your foe before getting an accurate calculation:

1. Their covert power
2. Their covert level vs your own covert level
3. Their alert level

First step:

1. If their covert level is less than 4 levels below yours, calculate what your covert power would be with their level+4.
2. Take that number (or your total covert power if the above does not apply) and divide it by the number of spies you have. We'll call this number A.
3. Divide your foe's covert by A. This is the minimum number of spies you should send.
4. Spy your foe with this number of spies. If you can see all of their stats, increase the number of spies by 10% and sab away.
5. If you see too many ???s, increase the number of spies incrementally until you see all of their stats and go to step 4.


Pooka

Re: Calc?

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:04 am
by wasmguy
Agapooka wrote:The best way to tell if a sab is going to succeed is to spy with the same amount of spies that you plan to sab with.

Recons are much more forgiving. If you see almost all of their stats, then you're probably safe.

To be even safer add a few extra (10%).

Keep in mind that spy levels are not as effective if there's a big gap and your spy level is much higher (more than 4 levels higher).


You need to know all of the following about your foe before getting an accurate calculation:

1. Their covert power
2. Their covert level vs your own covert level
3. Their alert level

First step:

1. If their covert level is less than 4 levels below yours, calculate what your covert power would be with their level+4.
2. Take that number (or your total covert power if the above does not apply) and divide it by the number of spies you have. We'll call this number A.
3. Divide your foe's covert by A. This is the minimum number of spies you should send.
4. Spy your foe with this number of spies. If you can see all of their stats, increase the number of spies by 10% and sab away.
5. If you see too many ???s, increase the number of spies incrementally until you see all of their stats and go to step 4.


Pooka
This is pretty accurate, but step one should be 5 levels. And just to clarify before it is asked, for every level over 5, just divide by a factor of √ 2

Re: Calc?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:38 am
by Vicarious
Heres a sab calc if you want it :P

viewtopic.php?f=101&t=198806

Still haven't gotten feedback from this version but the old one was pretty solid.

~V

Re: Calc?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:10 pm
by Sol
Vic! I thought you died. How is ya?

Re: Calc?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:10 pm
by Vicarious
Haha I'm not too bad, still muckin about :P

Ya should be on skype more (or msn) I'm always around there :P Hows yourself anyways?

Re: Calc?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:56 pm
by BMMJ13
Be4utiful_De4th wrote:I type the info it requests, and it tells me how many spies to use. I use said spies, it fails, half die. And yes i use the exact numbers I dont round off.

Happens every time.

one time it said i only need to send one spy. that's after 2 million failed.
99.9% of the time failure is user error. I would make sure you are reading it correctly and putting in what needs to be put in.
Diregie wrote:
Jaime Lannister wrote:BettyCalc hardly ever fails. It is quite good. Only problem it has is the crappy server it's hosted on.

-KJ
this.

a few days ago server was down but there's always the mirror. :)
Unfortunately there is only so many free hosting sites with the features that are needed to run it. Maybe someday I'll find a better one.

Re: Calc?

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:04 pm
by Be4utiful_De4th
Im not retarded bro. its kind of easy to fill in two boxes.