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Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:58 am
by son goku
I have recently been playing Ascended a lot and have noticed an issue that I feel is unfair. There are a few players that are targeting certain "inactive" players that have a HUGE income with a De-Ascension strategy. The strategy goes as this:

-Find a player with an income of over 300,000,000,000 a turn
-De-Ascend him and make a note of the exact time and date of the final attack
-Wait 2 weeks
-After the 2 weeks when he goes onto {Temporarily under Protection of the Ascended Assembly ...} let his dark matter build up
-Using the time and date noted from your final attack calculate when his PPT will end
-On the turn of its removal hit said "inactive" for 80-100,000,000,000,000,000 dark matter units

There are players doing this constantly with a few players, to the point that they have been De-Ascended or on PPT for the last half a year.

Unless I or others sit there and refreshed the screen every 30 minutes ready to attack, we will never be able to hit the ridiculous amounts of dark matter that must be well and truly upgrading one individual/small group of smart players!

Can the time at which people come off Ascended PPT be randomized significantly to the point that this unfair farming can be stopped?

Rant Over!

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:02 pm
by Loki™
Do a little math and you'll know when they drop.

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:12 pm
by son goku
I don't know how long the PPT lasts for when you return, never seen it mentioned anywhere!

Surely it's better to solve the problem however than join them?

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:19 pm
by Juliette
Except there is no technical problem, ergo nothing to fix.. except more players learning how to handle post-descension accounts.

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:25 pm
by Sniperwax
It is expensive to descend even a 3 hit target. At even a modest 20t/1AT that's 6Q you have to get from them. Target needs to be making 30t/TC to just break even. I tend to keep my DMU average around 25t/1AT that's a little closer to 7.5Q so they need to be closer to 40t/TC to break even. This is all assuming I even get the coveted PPT ending hit.

The resources you have to invest to even become large enough to 3 hit your average 40t+++/TC target is surreal. Assuming my math is in any way accurate (I'm on the beers right now!) I say let them use their turns in this manner if they want as annoying as it is to you and me both.

Juliette check my math and grab me another brew. KK thx

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:26 pm
by son goku
>.< ok! In which case how in the world do I find out how long the PPT is for? I have looked for ages but couldn't find it!

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:29 pm
by son goku
Sniperwax wrote:It is expensive to descend even a 3 hit target. At even a modest 20t/1AT that's 6Q you have to get from them. Target needs to be making 30t/TC to just break even. I tend to keep my DMU average around 25t/1AT that's a little closer to 7.5Q so they need to be closer to 40t/TC to break even. This is all assuming I even get the coveted PPT ending hit.

The resources you have to invest to even become large enough to 3 hit your average 40t+++/TC target is surreal. Assuming my math is in any way accurate (I'm on the beers right now!) I say let them use their turns in this manner if they want as annoying as it is to you and me both.

Juliette check my math and grab me another brew. KK thx
I have multiple farms on my list that generate over 200-300t/TC one in particular with over 50 trillion planets that generates 350t/TC! At that level the profits must be incredible!

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:31 pm
by Juliette
You watch just like the rest of us, or you become the one doing the descensions. (Or you become friends with the ones who do it.. *grin*)

It is rather expensive to regularly descend people. :)



You shall have your mead, Sniper.

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:35 pm
by Sniperwax
Juliette wrote:You watch just like the rest of us, or you become the one doing the descensions. (Or you become friends with the ones who do it.. *grin*)

It is rather expensive to regularly descend people. :)



You shall have your mead, Sniper.
Maybe you can nod your head then at this assumption. It is a 4 day PPT?

Assuming it is a 4 day PPT the drop time might be subject to a 1 or 2 TC delay like it is on main. I'm not sure if ASC does the -31 minutes PPT stuff. I know there are 49 turn changes a day on ASC. I also know my favorite color is green and my lucky number is 114 but 14 is usually lucky too.

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:36 pm
by son goku
I'll just have to De-Ascend a friend and ask him nicely!

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:38 pm
by son goku
Sniperwax wrote:
Juliette wrote:You watch just like the rest of us, or you become the one doing the descensions. (Or you become friends with the ones who do it.. *grin*)

It is rather expensive to regularly descend people. :)



You shall have your mead, Sniper.
Maybe you can nod your head then at this assumption. It is a 4 day PPT?

Assuming it is a 4 day PPT the drop time might be subject to a 1 or 2 TC delay like it is on main. I'm not sure if ASC does the -31 minutes PPT stuff. I know there are 49 turn changes a day on ASC. I also know my favorite color is green and my lucky number is 114 but 14 is usually lucky too.
18 days give or take an hour it is then! Thank you for the advice :smt117

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:04 am
by nightlight
This is why i have so many kills...I figured out long ago how long it take for a player to come back....I write down what time i killed them then when they time limit is due a week or so later i hit them once and get a nice amount of DMU :smt059
I call it the ascended bank that i use to upgrade my demi's :smt026

Now delete this thread so no one else get's onto it and messes up my easy dmu farms :smt044

Re: Something that is annoying me!

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:26 pm
by ƒëmmë
nightlight wrote:This is why i have so many kills...I figured out long ago how long it take for a player to come back....I write down what time i killed them then when they time limit is due a week or so later i hit them once and get a nice amount of DMU :smt059
I call it the ascended bank that i use to upgrade my demi's :smt026

Now delete this thread so no one else get's onto it and messes up my easy dmu farms :smt044
you dastedly feind :P :smt043