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Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust" )
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:27 pm
by ~Les Erebus~
I would like to ask Admin J why the accounts are not being banned on main? Now everyone knows where assuming gets you in life not far, but I'm willing to bet if they are scripting in ascended, they are scripting in Main.. Hell it's a known fact with quite a few people with who the "scriptors" are..
Jason and all admin/players that help keep this game going, would you all not be a lot happier if you knew ALL players had a fair chance? you all have worked your asses off coding in this game for years.. You all created a awesome text based game to where allot of people have played and left and came back or have stayed, some quit to never play again. I would think you would have the respect for YOUR game, and the TRUE warriors who play this game and are far far behind.
I already compete with cash spenders, that is fine with me. Hell, if I had the money I would be a spender to, but I can't keep up with them let alone keep up with scripting, it is a HUGE dis-advantage, and it brings my MORAL down, not too mention if I feel this way I am sure some other feels this way too. now, I do understand that the process behind finding the scripters is hard work, but when you find them and give them second, third, fourth chances it makes us all think.
Sol, Props to you man you have went well beyond your duty and are making sure the fools are being dealt with, so this is not directed towards you and Jason not a rant at you.. I think my point is we ALL deserve a explanation as to what is going on with the CHEATERS that you have caught. i see some them in main and they have not been banned??
I ask all players to please keep this clean, don't troll, don't fight, post your thoughts, this has been on my mind for years TBH...
Respect to all,
Les
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:45 pm
by Sol
For the record, AJ hasn't seen my emails yet (he's been in the dark for a bit).
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:33 pm
by Mikgamer
He never "cross server" bans anyways. Some people cheated back in the old Chaos wars days and never got touched in main...
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:50 pm
by JasonJay
Chaos to main is a bit of a bad analogy as both have no effect on the other...Ascended and main are interlinked
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:59 pm
by Tetrismonkey
I disagree. If your caught cheating, all accounts should be banned. Its not just a rule per game, but more so for Kingdom Games as a whole. Cheat on one game, you should be banned from all servers, just common sense there.
Now as to him not banning, this has been an on going issue for years now, its nothing new.
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:02 pm
by JasonJay
But Sol is something new, and Admin does ban on main, occasionally, when the culprit doesn't know anyone that is friends with Admin. So have fatih
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:05 pm
by ~Les Erebus~
That's what I was thinking but TBH, I didn't really know and all my "statements" are not "facts", but they are well known rumors and I trust Sol and his team that these people were caught scripting and I know Drought got a hit in on me before his Ban in ascended (which pisses me off as he had the advantage)..
I have taken the descention well only like 60 more hours left, but as I watched this all unfold I get to thinking and in alot of way it's BS, and needs fixed and I thank all of you working hard on this..
tetris you are right I have seen so many since Clarkey quit hunting that have gone un-looked at and and JJ I am trying to have faith my friend but if me and TET ever agreed on anything it is this. Im definitely not attacking, but im very very curious as to why he has turned the blind eye so many times...
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:06 pm
by Master Rahl
I find it disheartening that the (all) game admins are just gone for a while. People pay a lot of money here. I think little more from the very top would make for a more secure feeling among the community.
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:10 pm
by Tetrismonkey
Master Rahl wrote:I find it disheartening that the (all) game admins are just gone for a while. People pay a lot of money here. I think little more from the very top would make for a more secure feeling among the community.
The recent outage in the game is a prime example of how much care Admin J has for this game. Its nothing more than a side project for him that generates some income.
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:46 pm
by Bromas
Les Ennemis wrote:That's what I was thinking but TBH, I didn't really know and all my "statements" are not "facts", but they are well known rumors and I trust Sol and his team that these people were caught scripting and I know Drought got a hit in on me before his Ban in ascended (which pisses me off as he had the advantage)..
I have taken the descention well only like 60 more hours left, but as I watched this all unfold I get to thinking and in alot of way it's BS, and needs fixed and I thank all of you working hard on this..
tetris you are right I have seen so many since Clarkey quit hunting that have gone un-looked at and and JJ I am trying to have faith my friend but if me and TET ever agreed on anything it is this. Im definitely not attacking, but im very very curious as to why he has turned the blind eye so many times...
Sol doesn't have a team... Sol is the team!
as is Juliette
AJ seems to need help from Sol and Jules though, PR wise mostly
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:20 am
by Borek
Lot of people are not aware that Admin J does actually have a job and family, running sgw is not his only commitment. Obviously it is frustrating to see people get caught for cheating and not punished in main, i suspect he has either not had the time to check SoL's methods/findings and/or arrange something in main so he can check they are duplicating the cheating on both servers like we all strongly suspect, or maybe he has his own reasons for not banning, we simply do not know. My guess is he is just busy at the moment.
As for the recent outage and the time taken to fix it, then my personal suspicions are it seemed more a case of hacking/security exploitation of the database than some form of easily fixable corruption or hardware fault. My extensive experience tells me that no matter how much you know about computers and the hardware/software you regularly use, every so often they just break, even if it subsequently turns out to be a relatively easy fix, getting to that point can take a heck of a long time.
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:19 pm
by Tetrismonkey
Borek wrote:Lot of people are not aware that Admin J does actually have a job and family, running sgw is not his only commitment. Obviously it is frustrating to see people get caught for cheating and not punished in main, i suspect he has either not had the time to check SoL's methods/findings and/or arrange something in main so he can check they are duplicating the cheating on both servers like we all strongly suspect, or maybe he has his own reasons for not banning, we simply do not know. My guess is he is just busy at the moment.
As for the recent outage and the time taken to fix it, then my personal suspicions are it seemed more a case of hacking/security exploitation of the database than some form of easily fixable corruption or hardware fault. My extensive experience tells me that no matter how much you know about computers and the hardware/software you regularly use, every so often they just break, even if it subsequently turns out to be a relatively easy fix, getting to that point can take a heck of a long time.
It was not what had happened with the outage, but rather the way he handled it.
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:42 pm
by ~Les Erebus~
I'm not questioning what happened with the outage it gave me some time needed away from the game, and in the end didn't cost me too much. I want to kind of leave the "outage" out of this topic TBH, I'm asking about CHEATING..
Understand, I want the answer from Admin J, I know this game is not priority(all the time for him), but it is a source of a income, and it his creation..I think I and we have a right to know the
players that are banned and for what this tells us who to avoid in the coming months said scammer, scripter, cheater comes back so we don't invite them into our alliances. The other thing I think we deserve to know is to
why anyone would be let off for cheating?
We have all seen it in the passed and it causes anger and I personally feel like I'm being jipped!! I will await your response AJ I know your busy with RL and I don't fault you for that, take your time. I Invite others to talk about this just please keep it on topic. This is not a topic of hate or bashing AJ it's a question that I think desperately needs answered....
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Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:39 pm
by Kjarkur
Good evening,
Now I'm a bit pissed.
At least give admin J a chance to go over the evidence before going all out against Admin Jason. We have no idea what he will say - it is possible he wont even agree with SoL. (Him and SoL do not have to agree, they're two very different people and are allowed to disagree) but if he does, your gonna look like a fool for judging J like this before he even takes a look at this case (having bigger fish to fry like that thing called real life)
And cut the BS about this being about you not wanting to invite the wrong person into your alliance. At least be straight forward and post what you and your mates are shouting on skype etc.
-KJ
Re: Admin J please Read this!! (regarding the resent "bust"
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:28 pm
by Drahazar
KJ what's said in Skype, stays in Skype, I mean we don't want the whole server to know what we get up to behind closed doors
