I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????
i have 80 tril covert.
Why is this
EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
You could give me his ID....
for having 99 million spies..
for having 99 million spies..
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
Setesh wrote:You could give me his ID....
for having 99 million spies..
Read a little closerHeisenberg wrote:He had 99mil spies on level 21.
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
I get this quite often, higher covert but takes multiple recon missions to finally get some stats
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????
i have 80 tril covert.
Why is this
EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
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High Empty wrote:however people shouldn't have lvl 33 and 200mil spies and try to be in the top 10, it's unhealthy.
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.Field Marshall wrote:Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????
i have 80 tril covert.
Why is this
EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
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[5:26:57 AM ] josh: 30% of 100 is 33.3333333333333
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees:
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**
[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob
[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf
[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees:
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**
[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob
[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf
[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
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reborn wrote: You think u can see scripting from spying. Is the demi u have this?
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
Spy Success Calculation: Your Covert Action (based on agents SENT) must be greater than their Covert Action (times defcon percent)-100, divided by your Spy Level+2, divided by 2.
Spy Death Rate: 20 Percent of spies/agents sent when operation was unsuccessful. None lost on success.
Sabotage Success Calculation: Your Covert Action must be higher than their covert action (adjusted by their defcon rate).
Sabotage Damage Calculation: Your Covert Action minus their covert action (adjusted by their defcon rate) to a maximum of 5900 weapon power, or 2 percent of their total weapon power -whichever is greater. This is doubled if both parties are at war. The damage goes from lowest strength weapons, upwards, destroying as many as possible until you have no damage potential left, or your damage potential left is smaller than the strength of the next weapon.
Spy Death Rate: 20 Percent of spies/agents sent when operation was unsuccessful. None lost on success.
Sabotage Success Calculation: Your Covert Action must be higher than their covert action (adjusted by their defcon rate).
Sabotage Damage Calculation: Your Covert Action minus their covert action (adjusted by their defcon rate) to a maximum of 5900 weapon power, or 2 percent of their total weapon power -whichever is greater. This is doubled if both parties are at war. The damage goes from lowest strength weapons, upwards, destroying as many as possible until you have no damage potential left, or your damage potential left is smaller than the strength of the next weapon.
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Spoiler
[5:26:57 AM ] josh: 30% of 100 is 33.3333333333333
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees:
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**
[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob
[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf
[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees:
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**
[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob
[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf
[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
You are as peaceful as a nox kitten. Disgraceful.~Tziki~ wrote:my ass is busy :'(
reborn wrote: You think u can see scripting from spying. Is the demi u have this?
Dr Mariaelena Punicelle (Tier 4)
Skill level: Out of this world
Ability:
Increased able to detect scripts --4.41%
Decreased intelligence if you think the top ability works --99.98%
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
Recon is not affected by difference in levels. However, sabbing is.teesdale wrote:shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.Field Marshall wrote:Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????
i have 80 tril covert.
Why is this
EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
Is who you are looking to sab has level 32, the max covert level that can be applied when sabbing is 37 (regardless if it is higher). I'm not sure if it works in the other way though, say i have 39, if someone was to sab me (who had 30 covert) their covert level for the sab would rise to 34?
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
No if you have a higher covert you get home advantage, Only when you sab lower covert levels does it matter.Heisenberg wrote:Recon is not affected by difference in levels. However, sabbing is.teesdale wrote:shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.Field Marshall wrote:Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????
i have 80 tril covert.
Why is this
EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
Is who you are looking to sab has level 32, the max covert level that can be applied when sabbing is 37 (regardless if it is higher). I'm not sure if it works in the other way though, say i have 39, if someone was to sab me (who had 30 covert) their covert level for the sab would rise to 34?
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Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert
Thanks hunnieMental wrote:No if you have a higher covert you get home advantage, Only when you sab lower covert levels does it matter.Heisenberg wrote:Recon is not affected by difference in levels. However, sabbing is.teesdale wrote:shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.Field Marshall wrote:Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????
i have 80 tril covert.
Why is this
EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
Is who you are looking to sab has level 32, the max covert level that can be applied when sabbing is 37 (regardless if it is higher). I'm not sure if it works in the other way though, say i have 39, if someone was to sab me (who had 30 covert) their covert level for the sab would rise to 34?