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Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:25 pm
by Heisenberg
I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????

i have 80 tril covert.

Why is this :(

EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:35 pm
by Juliette
Get thyself on Skype, foul demon. :D My summoning ritual failed due to you not being in the chat.

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:00 am
by Setesh
You could give me his ID....

for having 99 million spies..



:twisted:

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:09 am
by Heisenberg
Setesh wrote:You could give me his ID....

for having 99 million spies..



:twisted:
Heisenberg wrote:He had 99mil spies on level 21.
Read a little closer ;)

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:55 am
by Zod14c
I get this quite often, higher covert but takes multiple recon missions to finally get some stats

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:00 am
by Field Marshall
Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????

i have 80 tril covert.

Why is this :(

EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.

i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 :-k therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:00 pm
by teesdale
Field Marshall wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????

i have 80 tril covert.

Why is this :(

EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.

i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 :-k therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:06 pm
by teesdale
Spy Success Calculation: Your Covert Action (based on agents SENT) must be greater than their Covert Action (times defcon percent)-100, divided by your Spy Level+2, divided by 2.

Spy Death Rate: 20 Percent of spies/agents sent when operation was unsuccessful. None lost on success.

Sabotage Success Calculation: Your Covert Action must be higher than their covert action (adjusted by their defcon rate).

Sabotage Damage Calculation: Your Covert Action minus their covert action (adjusted by their defcon rate) to a maximum of 5900 weapon power, or 2 percent of their total weapon power -whichever is greater. This is doubled if both parties are at war. The damage goes from lowest strength weapons, upwards, destroying as many as possible until you have no damage potential left, or your damage potential left is smaller than the strength of the next weapon.

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:17 am
by Heisenberg
teesdale wrote:
Field Marshall wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????

i have 80 tril covert.

Why is this :(

EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.

i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 :-k therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.
Recon is not affected by difference in levels. However, sabbing is.

Is who you are looking to sab has level 32, the max covert level that can be applied when sabbing is 37 (regardless if it is higher). I'm not sure if it works in the other way though, say i have 39, if someone was to sab me (who had 30 covert) their covert level for the sab would rise to 34?

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:09 am
by Mental
Heisenberg wrote:
teesdale wrote:
Field Marshall wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????

i have 80 tril covert.

Why is this :(

EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.

i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 :-k therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.
Recon is not affected by difference in levels. However, sabbing is.

Is who you are looking to sab has level 32, the max covert level that can be applied when sabbing is 37 (regardless if it is higher). I'm not sure if it works in the other way though, say i have 39, if someone was to sab me (who had 30 covert) their covert level for the sab would rise to 34?
No if you have a higher covert you get home advantage, Only when you sab lower covert levels does it matter.

Re: Struggling to spy despite much higher covert

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:16 am
by Heisenberg
Mental wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
teesdale wrote:
Field Marshall wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:I'm trying to spy and account with 670 bil covert and i'm getting mostly ??????

i have 80 tril covert.

Why is this :(

EDIT: He had 99mil spies on level 21. Dunno if that means anything. Still had the big difference in covert
Might be to do with the <5 levels of your own level.

i.e if you are a level 40, then you should treat them like a level 35 :-k therefore, their covert power for purposes of sabbing or spying maybe closer to your covert power.
shouldnt be, since the formula for sab & recon is in direct relation to you levels/units... as is your covert defence if being sab'd or spied... regardless of level.
Recon is not affected by difference in levels. However, sabbing is.

Is who you are looking to sab has level 32, the max covert level that can be applied when sabbing is 37 (regardless if it is higher). I'm not sure if it works in the other way though, say i have 39, if someone was to sab me (who had 30 covert) their covert level for the sab would rise to 34?
No if you have a higher covert you get home advantage, Only when you sab lower covert levels does it matter.
Thanks hunnie :smt060