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Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:46 am
by Bioflick
i was just to enjoy this lovely house. and failed a mass since the opponent still adds defence from his MS...
provides 12,999,547,775,000 additional defence power to the troops on the ground!
Its not allways failing, but here and there.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:10 am
by Support
An incorrect display of said House's bonus, as most who have dwelt in that house probably have experienced.
Sobek has an 80% chance of ignoring both attacking and defending motherships (no battle, no damage).

Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:18 am
by Bioflick
BONUS:100 Percent Negates All Mothships In Attack/Raid Battles- Own and Enemy
I see you changed it to 80% now. bug fixed i guess
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:22 am
by Ritalin

I guess somebody asked for it to be reduced..
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:31 am
by Support
Back in 2011, when it was last changed? Maybe, that was before my time.
I do not do 'updates on demand'. Ask anyone.
*Ritalin wrote:
I guess somebody asked for it to be reduced..
http://gatewars.com/updates.php #2011 wrote:Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater)
Seeing as a Fleet (aboard a MS) cannot be attacked, they in turn can not attaack others ---ie this house cannot conquer planets.
Flight Eaters, of course, will not be able to fly without angering their god...so it is in fact your own crew who -in fear of gods- does not engage in such flights.
UPDATE(the next day): OK - so, massing planets was an issue if target could not destroy the fleet back. But no planet acquisition also an equal issue...SO.....
The ability of those in the house to attack planets is back. BUT the chance that the MotherShips do NOT engage (but turns still used) is now 80%, leaving 20% of the time it works normally....
Also: 20% of the time, defender and attacker MS WILL engage in normal battles.
This should allow everyone their desired actions, with a bit more risk than before, and potentially costing more turns for retaliation, but not impossible.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:35 am
by Ritalin
Support wrote:Back in 2011, when it was last changed? Maybe, that was before my time.
I do not do 'updates on demand'. Ask anyone.
*Ritalin wrote:
I guess somebody asked for it to be reduced..
http://gatewars.com/updates.php #2011 wrote:Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater)
Seeing as a Fleet (aboard a MS) cannot be attacked, they in turn can not attaack others ---ie this house cannot conquer planets.
Flight Eaters, of course, will not be able to fly without angering their god...so it is in fact your own crew who -in fear of gods- does not engage in such flights.
UPDATE(the next day): OK - so, massing planets was an issue if target could not destroy the fleet back. But no planet acquisition also an equal issue...SO.....
The ability of those in the house to attack planets is back. BUT the chance that the MotherShips do NOT engage (but turns still used) is now 80%, leaving 20% of the time it works normally....
Also: 20% of the time, defender and attacker MS WILL engage in normal battles.
This should allow everyone their desired actions, with a bit more risk than before, and potentially costing more turns for retaliation, but not impossible.
So with every 100 hits 20 hits will be guanteed with full ms or is it random?
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:36 am
by IFLuX
*Ritalin wrote:Support wrote:Back in 2011, when it was last changed? Maybe, that was before my time.
I do not do 'updates on demand'. Ask anyone.
*Ritalin wrote:
I guess somebody asked for it to be reduced..
http://gatewars.com/updates.php #2011 wrote:Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater)
Seeing as a Fleet (aboard a MS) cannot be attacked, they in turn can not attaack others ---ie this house cannot conquer planets.
Flight Eaters, of course, will not be able to fly without angering their god...so it is in fact your own crew who -in fear of gods- does not engage in such flights.
UPDATE(the next day): OK - so, massing planets was an issue if target could not destroy the fleet back. But no planet acquisition also an equal issue...SO.....
The ability of those in the house to attack planets is back. BUT the chance that the MotherShips do NOT engage (but turns still used) is now 80%, leaving 20% of the time it works normally....
Also: 20% of the time, defender and attacker MS WILL engage in normal battles.
This should allow everyone their desired actions, with a bit more risk than before, and potentially costing more turns for retaliation, but not impossible.
So with every 100 hits 20 hits will be guanteed with full ms or is it random?
No. Every 1000 hits there will be 200 which will go through.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:38 am
by Ritalin
IFLuX wrote:
No. Every 1000 hits there will be 200 which will go through.
ok so its been spaced out to be less predictable
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:20 am
by Support
That is actually not how it works. (Denis.. *shakes fist*)
Every attack, you have an 80% chance that Motherships will not engage. Each new attack is a new 'draw' if you will.
So while sure, over every 1000 hits you will on average have 200 engagements, that is not absolute.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:16 pm
by Tetrismonkey
Im curious why it was changed. Whats wrong with a house that 100% removes MS's.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:16 am
by Clockwork
Tetrismonkey wrote:Im curious why it was changed. Whats wrong with a house that 100% removes MS's.
Can't ever take a planet?
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:59 am
by Duderanch
I thought planet taking was unaffected by the house, only ms battles.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:55 am
by Clockwork
Duderanch wrote:I thought planet taking was unaffected by the house, only ms battles.
It was discussed here:-
viewtopic.php?p=2239805#p2239805
If you were in flight eaters, you could never take a planet, but those outside flight eates seemed to be able to take yours.
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:06 am
by Guild
what a stupid change to the house, should totally negate MS's
Re: Disciples of Sobek(Flight Eater) is bugged
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:12 am
by Support
Again,
not a change, only an end to the false advertising about the House bonus.
Would you rather have had the game continue to display "100%" while actually working with 80%?
I fail to see how that would be in any way better than properly displaying the House bonus.
Unless of course you mean the change and discussion in 2011, then yes, that does look like an odd affair. My action now is strictly rectifying a display mistake that was never corrected in the 3 years we have had this House.