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Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:30 am
by Corkscrew
Where too begin aye, having really hoped the whole situation would of been addressed and this wouldnt of occured right at the end, enough is enough. Had a cracking time playing this game the last two era, but completely speechless, who would of thought the optimum objective of the game would be too ride on the back of a script too get the best end results.

I'm a pretty methodical person when it comes too gaming and producing the right numbers, but this is just lol. I have too say i feel rightly upset for those that actually spent $$ this Era, luckily i wasnt one of them.

So having taking my frustration out on the server, I wont be returning too Q. Never quiet understand the views of some of the players over Era's of let downs, fair play for sticking through it, i've met my quota. Onto better things. So fair do's, would of been a nice battle for top spot this Era.

Cork, signing out once again from SGW. Who knows might return another 9 years down the line.

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:36 am
by orix
Said it all mate.
Those that are going to keep playing. Best of luck.
Admin, I am sorry that you couldnt see an imbalance in the game.
Maybe now people will voice there opinions as to some sort of solution.
Got talking to a few cool people.
Look after your self Teyla, Bloodkiller & Jack.

Regards,
Orix

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:24 am
by Neimenljivi
As I said in the PM, I can't try to persuade you to remain as that'd be hypocritical of me seeing how I'll only decide whether I will continue after seeing how the new era is set up. But hopefully Haz has learned his lesson and next era will be better and with more input from the players. We got rid of quite a few cheaters this era, either by Haz banning them or by us sitting on them, so that's something and hopefully those cheaters don't return.

Now Haz please start listening to those of us who have been here for a long time in regards to balancing the game. USSs brought huge advantage throughout the era. It was imbalanced. Auto ascension was yet another thing that hugely imbalanced the era and was completely unnecessary. Why? Because in the 2nd ascension era, each time you ascended your stats (along with income) doubled (or were multiplied by the square root of 2, can't remember any more but I am absolutely sure they doubled in the first era). When Juliette took over, she nerfed the ascension multiplier to 1.1 and added some of the limits from NG which are completely idiotic because you wind up with the accounts set up exactly the same at the end, same techs, usually same C & AC levels, same types of weapons, they only differ in the amount of units trained in different stats. Auto ascension of farms was completely unnecessary when the ascension multiplier was nerfed that far down. Think about it, at level 10, your income is 2.6x of someone who isn't ascended at all and due to ascension wiping out your army, you would have ended up with way fewer units than in most of the other eras and in the era with no special features (the previous one, if memory serves me right), I was a Goa'uld, top army size and top income for the first half of the era and I was getting 10ATs worth of income per turn, with ascension wiping out your army and taking the multiplier in account, you'd maybe wind up with getting 15 AT worth of income per turn, MAYBE 20 if you really worked hard and were a Goa'uld. That's still pretty balanced. When the multiplier was the SQRT of 2, the income was ~29x bigger. It was necessary to balance it out somehow, could have been done without auto-ascending, but alas, it was what it was.

Anyway, everyone is sick of the ascension eras already. Hopefully this really is the last one and the next one is a balanced, fun and - most of all - a brand new era.

~Jack

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:31 am
by Field Marshall
I too am hanging up my Q coat.

I can't believe how this has panned out.

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:53 am
by harchester
i am utterly disgusted how this has happened...im shocked and angry, let down by those in power....

upset, angry, disappointed, let down.

:(

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:41 pm
by The Doctor
Its been a part of the ascended era for a while, and I haven't noted any change to the auto ascending behaviour.
You knew of this behaviour, yet you didnt alter your playing style?

Heard of the story of the Tortoise and the Hare? "Patience is a virtue"?
Those who took their time, either intentionally or not, gained the advantage.


Now that there are no more scheduled forced ascensions, its now down to skill and luck.

You can complain, or you can get competitive, beat down those in the lead (you all planned to do that anyway) and have some fun.

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:58 pm
by Ronon Dex
Haz wrote:Its been a part of the ascended era for a while, and I haven't noted any change to the auto ascending behaviour.
You knew of this behaviour, yet you didnt alter your playing style?

Heard of the story of the Tortoise and the Hare? "Patience is a virtue"?
Those who took their time, either intentionally or not, gained the advantage.


Now that there are no more scheduled forced ascensions, its now down to skill and luck.

You can complain, or you can get competitive, beat down those in the lead (you all planned to do that anyway) and have some fun.
You say that but how can we base game play on something that is not an intentional aspect of the game. How are the players supposed to know that if you stay at a certain army size for a certain amount of time then they would gain a free ascension... and if we did know this why would any of us that were playing with purpose click that dam ascension button.... because at the end of the day there's no point to it

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:37 am
by Neimenljivi
What a funny trend going on in GW.. You guys fix what isn't broken and don't fix the things that are broken, lovely.
Can you please explain to me WHY the feature was necessary to "balance" out the game? Because from what I've seen, you just took a broken era and didn't change a thing to it this time round. There are around 30 different eras you could have chosen, but you chose a broken one and one that we've already played 3 times before.

~Jack

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:06 am
by Bloodkiller
I agree with corkscrew it was pure dumb luck that a few of us got the upper hand just because the front runners where trying to knock through ascensions to get ahead. Not to mention the players that use there dollars to get ahead. Myself and many others got ahead by doing nothing. Now if everyone knew about the free ascensions it might have been better. But as far as I know nobody knew. The argument could be made if everyone know about the free ascension everyone would have tried to push through ascensions to have it easier at the end. The point is nobody knew.

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:34 pm
by Setesh
Haz wrote:Its been a part of the ascended era for a while, and I haven't noted any change to the auto ascending behaviour.
You knew of this behaviour, yet you didnt alter your playing style?

Heard of the story of the Tortoise and the Hare? "Patience is a virtue"?
Those who took their time, either intentionally or not, gained the advantage.


Now that there are no more scheduled forced ascensions, its now down to skill and luck.

You can complain, or you can get competitive, beat down those in the lead (you all planned to do that anyway) and have some fun.

I read this post and then couldn't believe it was an actual admin saying it. Are you serious? "Why rush to work for levels, when you can do nothing and get them for free!!!" How about not making an era where players try to ascend as many times as they can, and then telling players "well, you shouldn't have ascended so fast?"

Quantum server has a limited amount of time to play each era. If players are reaching the point where they can ascend, and then waiting to ascend, is that not time wasted for their next ascension? Not to mention these players are already behind the $$$$ spenders :roll:


Then again, who cares? This thread will disappear shortly just like every other thread critical of Quantum has, and Haz will have fun running a dead server, still spewing his "Complain or compete!" to nobody at all. Your complete mismanagement of everything that has happened since you took over is making the longtime players quit Q. What exactly do you think the chances are of attracting new ones?

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:21 am
by Hammond of Texas
Haz wrote:Its been a part of the ascended era for a while, and I haven't noted any change to the auto ascending behaviour.
You knew of this behaviour, yet you didnt alter your playing style?
So we have to change our playing style to accommodate your broken scripts?
The script does not even check the last login field in the Database and we have no idea what it criteria are for auto ascending accounts. how are the players to blame for badly written and foolishly implemented scripts.#
Haz wrote: Heard of the story of the Tortoise and the Hare? "Patience is a virtue"?
Those who took their time, either intentionally or not, gained the advantage.
so your advice here is to not bother playing or doing anything because the game will give you everything you need for free with no effort? are you for real? you are either very deluded ar a complete idiot!!
Haz wrote: Now that there are no more scheduled forced ascensions, its now down to skill and luck.

You can complain, or you can get competitive, beat down those in the lead (you all planned to do that anyway) and have some fun.
so now that most of the era has been played and none of it mattered you now say we have to start competing!!!
its like a football match where one team is winning 3-0 and then the ref just gives the other team 3 free goals because they didn't try hard enough and now the game is decided on penalties. WTH IS THE POINT OF THAT ???????????????????

I have dealt with some modded in my time but that is a level of stupidity beyond human understanding.

the game is broke and the fact that you either cant see it or refuse to admit it is the thing that is making people quit the game.

IM OUT see you modded on the other side.

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:22 am
by reborn
Lol nice reply there, and how u doing Hammond, didn't notice u back around till now, and seems your off again :smt010

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:34 am
by harchester
reborn wrote:Lol nice reply there, and how u doing Hammond, didn't notice u back around till now, and seems your off again :smt010
Hammond told me to tell you - he doesn't like you and your a. NOOB... Hammonds mean :(

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:18 pm
by ElgCaress
Hmmm....I have to agree with what the guys said. I'm a noob where it comes to all the in-depth calculations but even I noticed that last change to be a huge mistake. As Hammond mentioned, last log in date should have been checked. Doesn't matter how you spin it, I think that we can all agree that this era was a fail.

With all the drama happening this era, on and off the server I do think we all need something new and refreshing...and fun! Holding thumbs Haz will provide us with that.

I would also like to say to the guys who's called it quits, please don't. Like I said to Nem, go take a couple of days break, get drunk, get uhmm...well you get the picture.. :-" but come back!! It wont be fun without you all [-(

Re: Oops my finger slipped - Best of luck Q

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:04 am
by Ronon Dex
ElgCaress wrote: I would also like to say to the guys who's called it quits, please don't. Like I said to Nem, go take a couple of days break, get drunk, get uhmm...well you get the picture.. :-" but come back!! It wont be fun without you all [-(

There mostly always drunk.. lol