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Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:36 am
by Ras al Ghul
I was asked by the mentioned user to give back naq that I took, mind you when I say him he was at 300m, when I hit I got 1.2b. He also asked for 50% more back. This user has asked me to break the rules and do something that is illegal. Please review the users logs and make sure that he hasn't sent the same type of message to another user who may have done it, as feeding is against the rules.
[spoiler]User: Jack Oneil
Subject:
Message text:
You really, really shouldn\'t have done that. I will give you one chance to give it back + 50%.
~Jack[/spoiler]
I sent the following message:
[spoiler]User: TheEnd
Subject:
Message text:
sorry I can\'t that would be feeding, and that is against the rules.
reply delete save Blacklist Sender[/spoiler]
I got this in return
[spoiler]User: Jack Oneil
Subject:
Message text:
No, it wouldn\'t be feeding. I know, I used to be one of the original Game Cops until I resigned.
~Jack[/spoiler]
I then responded with
[spoiler]User: TheEnd
Subject:
Message text:
per the tooltip on the main page \"Feeding is defined as giving your resources to other accounts ... one does not GIVE here, ones TAKES. If you purposefully give (via getting them to attack you while holding all currency in the open, or otherwise) your resources to others, it is feeding, and bannable.\"
I am also sure on your post on the forums under account Neimenljivi, you posted something about feeding. I tried to find it but seems I can\'t find it at the moment.[/spoiler]
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:50 am
by Ronon Dex
Its just extortion nothing wrong with that lol
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:54 am
by Ras al Ghul
Had I followed through it we both would have been banned. As feeding is against the rules.
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:17 am
by Ras al Ghul
Here is more.
[spoiler]User: Jack Oneil
Subject:
Message text:
Ok, then you\'re on my mass list

You sniped me, I want that back + a little extra for damages and my time. That isn\'t feeding. But ok, if you don\'t want to do it and use the feeding as an excuse, I don\'t care. But I will mass you. Might not be today, might be a month from now. Who knows. You will be massed, though.
~Jack[/spoiler]
My response
[spoiler]User: TheEnd
Subject:
Message text:
Feeding is feeding that is defined by the administration.
As for massing, this is a war game and I have already been hit once.[/spoiler]
I can see where someone says I sniped them. However I was looking at the ranks, and found him.
When I hit the attack button he only had 300mish out, imagine my surprise to see 1.2b taken
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Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:29 am
by Neimenljivi
Lol ok. I seriously hope you never have any high finishing rank expectations and I really hope you never have any officers 
~Jack
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:45 am
by Ras al Ghul
And another
[spoiler]User: Jack Oneil
Subject:
Message text:
Ok as you choose
And no, it is a difference between war reparation and feeding. A big one.
~Jack[/spoiler]
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:52 am
by The Doctor
This would be extortion, as mentioned previously, not feeding.
There are no rules against that.
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:55 am
by Ras al Ghul
Haz wrote:This would be extortion, as mentioned previously, not feeding.
There are no rules against that.
So all the rules have a gray area... hmmm intresting
Neimenljivi wrote:Lol ok. I seriously hope you never have any high finishing rank expectations and I really hope you never have any officers 
~Jack
I have many expectations, and so far I have knocked 2 of this Q list of mine
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:58 am
by Field Marshall
Haz wrote:This would be extortion, as mentioned previously, not feeding.
There are no rules against that.
Feeding is defined as giving your resources to other accounts ... one does not GIVE here, ones TAKES. If you purposefully give (via getting them to attack you while holding all currency in the open, or otherwise
Actually. The definition of giving resource by use of purposeful attack would argue otherwise.
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:01 am
by Ras al Ghul
Field Marshall wrote:Haz wrote:This would be extortion, as mentioned previously, not feeding.
There are no rules against that.
Feeding is defined as giving your resources to other accounts ... one does not GIVE here, ones TAKES. If you purposefully give (via getting them to attack you while holding all currency in the open, or otherwise
Actually. The definition of giving resource by use of purposeful attack would argue otherwise.
So its not me that sees directly in the tool tip
"
Feeding is defined as
giving your resources to other accounts ... one does not GIVE here, ones TAKES. If you
purposefully give (via getting them to attack you while holding all currency in the open, or otherwise"
Oh then there is this part "one does not GIVE here, ones TAKES"
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:05 am
by The Doctor
OK, it seems this rule may need some clarification/proper definition... I'll look into that soon.
Regardless, no rule has been broken, so no punishment is required.
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:06 am
by Neimenljivi
And I just took your strike and half your def. Be ready for more of taking and less of giving 
PS: No one else got such message from me because you were the only one stupid enough to snipe me 
~Jack
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:14 am
by Ras al Ghul
Haz wrote:OK, it seems this rule may need some clarification/proper definition... I'll look into that soon.
Regardless, no rule has been broken, so no punishment is required.
That's all we ask.
interuption
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:27 am
by Teyla.
im going to go get 10 of my friends to play
then im going to come back and "extort" them every day thru skype, mass u all and win.
no grey areas.
thelost got it in 1
one does not give one takes
if you give willingly its feeding, if you try to extort its forced feeding.
this isnt said a player cant return another players naq but a game cop should be made aware of it so they can look at the logs to see no feed and 1:1 only for the amount they lost [srry neim no extras].
Re: Jack Oneil ID 19909
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:36 am
by Master Rahl
mass him back Loss
