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Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your support

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:44 pm
by ƒëmmë
They're hanging up on us. After many of you called Health Minister Peter Dutton's office about the government's absurd 'veto' to medicinal cannabis on Norfolk Island – instead of listening to us, his office just started hanging up on voters calling in.

I can't believe he'd treat voters and families in need like this. Worse – this is what he said to ABC News yesterday about medicinal cannabis: "we just can't allow people for political reasons to sign up to a particular medication for argument's sake"

Minister, this isn't about political reasons. This is my son's life – it's about doing the only thing we can to reduce the pain and nausea from his terminal cancer chemo.

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Please share this image today on Facebook to embarrass Minister Dutton into getting briefed and meeting families impacted, it seems our only option now he won't take our calls!

I know your support is helping keep up the pressure on the government to get this done. News.com.au have just published this new article about what's happening – please share it.

There’s 30 years of clinical trials, 23 states in the US, not to mention 8 other countries, who all back medicinal cannabis. But our politicians are still stuck on "political reasons" and arguments about "long-term health implications".

This is about helping terminal cancer patients like my son Dan… they're just not getting it yet.

Thanks for all your help.

Lucy and the Haslams
https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/ ... their-son/

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/ ... ministers/

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/ ... le-part-1/

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/ ... le-part-2/

After seeing a couple of reports about medical cannabis on the Sunday Night show, I decided to get behind the people attempting to legalise the use of cannabis in treatments for terminally ill and others where current medicines are not helping.

thanks for reading, better still sign the petition at change.org and lobby your local MP :)

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:34 pm
by Sol
I disagree with the general use and cultivation of cannabis.
Everyone is jumping the gun and banking on the first milestone of legalization through medicinal use. If people really want to use it medicinally, as a sedative effect, then more research should go into a synthetic tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) or similar substance, before these oh so loving parents figure out they've screwed their child's life with something that has little known long term effects.

It's only thanks to the legalization in guinea-pig countries/states (thanks guys) that ethics committees are finally giving out trialling privileges and researches are gaining quality data easily, and drawing conclusions to the downfall of cannabis/marijuana that most people instinctively thought.
A quick scan of science daily:

Regular marijuana use bad for teens' brains, study finds:
Frequent marijuana use can have a significant negative effect on the brains of teenagers and young adults, including cognitive decline, poor attention and memory, and decreased IQ....
"It needs to be emphasized that regular cannabis use, which we consider once a week, is not safe..." .....People who have become addicted to marijuana can lose an average of six IQ points by adulthood.(August 9, 2014) http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 141436.htm
Marijuana use involved in more fatal accidents since commercialization of medical marijuana:
The proportion of marijuana-positive drivers involved in fatal motor vehicle crashes in Colorado has increased dramatically since the commercialization of medical marijuana in the middle of 2009, according to a study. (May 15, 2014) http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 173507.htm

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:00 am
by ~Les Erebus~
oh SoL stop being a party pooper. wanna get stoned dude?

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:18 am
by Sol
Les Ennemis wrote:oh SoL stop being a party pooper. wanna get stoned dude?
Can't, no time broseph :P. Plus alcohol is more readily available and doesn't give the munchies, it gives the fillies.

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:09 am
by Legendary Apophis
I agree with SOL and the minister.

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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:08 am
by Neimenljivi
Just because something helps dull the pain, it shouldn't be made legal. I am sure no one would like their children to be hooked up on heroine, just because it dulls pain. In extreme cases, morphine (pretty similar to heroine) is used, but no one will give you a prescription to use it by yourself in this day and age.
If something is legal somewhere, it doesn't mean it's good for everyday use. Coca was originally in Coca Cola beverage, but nowadays, who would let their children drink it if coca was still in it?

All this hype about legalizing cannabis is mostly generated by potheads. If you need further persuasion as to whether it's bad or not, just take a look at some of the older potheads who've been smoking it on a regular basis for a longer period of time. Their brain is fried. You can barely have a normal conversation with them.

~N

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:00 am
by RoKeT
So keep big pharma in eh? How many deaths a year come from alcohol? Prescription medication? And even nicotine? Now ow many a year from pot? If you think pot should be illegal while the other three are acceptable your nuts. I'd rather lose 6 IQ points then die, I'd rather lose my short tern memory then nod of in front of my child. If yup think pot is bad and should be illegal you should see what the legal drugs do to people.

In short legalize it, tax the heck out of it and bring awareness to the side effects and let them make up there own minds.

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:17 pm
by Sol
RoKeT wrote:So keep big pharma in eh? How many deaths a year come from alcohol? Prescription medication? And even nicotine? Now ow many a year from pot? If you think pot should be illegal while the other three are acceptable your nuts. I'd rather lose 6 IQ points then die, I'd rather lose my short tern memory then nod of in front of my child. If yup think pot is bad and should be illegal you should see what the legal drugs do to people.

In short legalize it, tax the heck out of it and bring awareness to the side effects and let them make up there own minds.
I would rather have the others restricted as well, but they're not going to be, and since I can stop another I will. As you pointed, many deaths already occur from alcohol, and billions of $$ sunk into rehabilitation, why on earth would you just legalise another drug that would follow the same pattern?

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:14 pm
by RoKeT
Because weed can't kill you, you couldn't consume enough of it the legal dose required is insanely high. Because you can tax it an take the money from the drug dealers and put it into programs that help the community.

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:41 am
by Sol
RoKeT wrote:Because weed can't kill you, you couldn't consume enough of it the legal dose required is insanely high. Because you can tax it an take the money from the drug dealers and put it into programs that help the community.
Yes, and I've never heard of anyone literally overdosing on alcohol and dying, doesn't mean it has negative effects.
Sounds like a great idea, legalize it, tax it, then use all the tax money to rehabilitate people while they increase the death toll due to DUI's and the like.

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:21 am
by noone
RoKeT wrote:Because weed can't kill you, you couldn't consume enough of it the legal dose required is insanely high. Because you can tax it an take the money from the drug dealers and put it into programs that help the community.

Death by weed has never been reported/stated in any medical report.
There are however examples of people dying while on weed and behaving stupid ...
But the same goes for a sugar rush.


Sol wrote: Yes, and I've never heard of anyone literally overdosing on alcohol and dying, doesn't mean it has negative effects.

lol

Deaths by Alcohol poisoning

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:52 am
by RoKeT
Sol lol no offense but alcohol poisoning kills a lot of people. Hell people die from nicotine overdoses yet none from weed haha I love weed

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:15 am
by Legendary Apophis

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:54 am
by RoKeT
Every mind altering drug has side effects and I'm sure those aren't the first two deaths that marijuana has contributed too. But again they didn't OVER DOSE. You can kill people or jump off a building without pots help. How many people kill themself each year or there wives. I mean seriously if only 2 people out of the millions who do it I think that proves it's value more then it disproves it

Re: Medical Cannabis -Australia- The Haslams need your suppo

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:49 pm
by Sol
RoKeT wrote:Every mind altering drug has side effects and I'm sure those aren't the first two deaths that marijuana has contributed too. But again they didn't OVER DOSE. You can kill people or jump off a building without pots help. How many people kill themself each year or there wives. I mean seriously if only 2 people out of the millions who do it I think that proves it's value more then it disproves it
The point is, they wouldn't normally do it if they weren't high, over dose or not, if someone dies under the influence of a substance then they die. It doesn't make the substance any safer if you can't technically directly die from it.
Yes I forgot about alcohol poisoning, but I still very rarely see it in the news as a means of death.
I would say the deaths due to alcohol poisoning are insignificant compared to the deaths from intoxication.