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FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:55 am
by [KMA]Avenger
FBI says no one's been killed in Newtown. scroll down till you see Newtown and look across, no deaths reported.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...#disablemobile


Gun grabbing false flag much!?!

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:52 pm
by Juliette
Dead link.
Here is the actual one:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/se ... 0-and-2013


On page 7, under the 'Snapshot' header, subsection 'INCIDENTS WITH THE HIGHEST CASUALTY COUNTS', ranked 5th:
Sandy Hook Elementary School and a residence in Newtown, Connecticut:
29 (27 killed, 2 wounded), December 14, 2012.
On page 15, 'Breakdown by location', subsection 'Education Environments':
Incidents in educational facilities account for some of the higher casualty counts. For
example, the highest death tolls among the 160 incidents occurred at Virginia Polytechnic
Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia (32 killed, 17 wounded) and Sandy
Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut (26 killed, 2 wo
unded [1 additional
death at a residence])
. Other high casualty counts occurred dur
ing the shootings at Northern
Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois (5 killed, 16 wounded) and Santana High School in
Santee, California (2 killed, 13 wounded).
Also, on page 40 of the report:
Sandy Hook Elementary School and Residence
On December 14, 2012, at 9:30 a.m., Adam Lanza, 20, armed with two handguns and a rifle,
shot through the secured front door to enter Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown,
Connecticut. He killed 20 students and six adults, and wounded two adults inside the school.
Prior to the shooting, the shooter killed his mother at their home. In total, 27 people were
killed; two were wounded. The shooter committed suicide after police arrived.


Your claim is unverifiable based on the source you provided (considering your source cannot be found, that is pretty much a given). September 16th's FBI report clearly states that there have been deaths reported in Sandy Hook's event. As no more recent statements regarding Sandy Hook have been made by the FBI at this time (Sep 26, '14), this can be considered the 'current truth' as the FBI sees it.
Counterpoint, please.

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:29 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
Juliette wrote:Dead link.
Here is the actual one:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/se ... 0-and-2013


On page 7, under the 'Snapshot' header, subsection 'INCIDENTS WITH THE HIGHEST CASUALTY COUNTS', ranked 5th:
Sandy Hook Elementary School and a residence in Newtown, Connecticut:
29 (27 killed, 2 wounded), December 14, 2012.
On page 15, 'Breakdown by location', subsection 'Education Environments':
Incidents in educational facilities account for some of the higher casualty counts. For
example, the highest death tolls among the 160 incidents occurred at Virginia Polytechnic
Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia (32 killed, 17 wounded) and Sandy
Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut (26 killed, 2 wo
unded [1 additional
death at a residence])
. Other high casualty counts occurred dur
ing the shootings at Northern
Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois (5 killed, 16 wounded) and Santana High School in
Santee, California (2 killed, 13 wounded).
Also, on page 40 of the report:
Sandy Hook Elementary School and Residence
On December 14, 2012, at 9:30 a.m., Adam Lanza, 20, armed with two handguns and a rifle,
shot through the secured front door to enter Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown,
Connecticut. He killed 20 students and six adults, and wounded two adults inside the school.
Prior to the shooting, the shooter killed his mother at their home. In total, 27 people were
killed; two were wounded. The shooter committed suicide after police arrived.


Your claim is unverifiable based on the source you provided (considering your source cannot be found, that is pretty much a given). September 16th's FBI report clearly states that there have been deaths reported in Sandy Hook's event. As no more recent statements regarding Sandy Hook have been made by the FBI at this time (Sep 26, '14), this can be considered the 'current truth' as the FBI sees it.
Counterpoint, please.
Forget your link. don't know why my above link didn't work. this one should work, and this report by the FBI says nobody died.




Criminal Justice Information Services Division

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... ablemobile

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:42 pm
by minisaiyan
so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:54 pm
by Mental
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Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:19 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
The link i provided has been described as the gold standard on multiple occasions by many people from all over the world when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.

For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.



http://sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:30 am
by ƒëmmë

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:38 am
by Juliette
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
Agreed.


A single source does not suffice -does it ever?- unless a generalising statement is made along the lines of "X says no one was killed". When X is proven to say at least one person was killed, the earlier generalising statement is false, or in need of specification. :)
I used my link to point to the FBI saying something other than what they are said to say by the OP, not as the answer to whether or not people died at Sandy Hook, which is a wholly different matter.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:The link i provided has been described as the gold standard
Define 'gold standard'.
[KMA]Avenger wrote: on multiple occasions
When?
[KMA]Avenger wrote: by many people from all over the world
By whom?
[KMA]Avenger wrote:when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.
Really? What makes your official report 'better' than the official report I linked?
[KMA]Avenger wrote:For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.
Except it is apparently a single source that agrees with your bold claim. We are then to disregard a source -directly from the FBI as much as your source (even more, since yours is several more steps away from the actual investigations)- that says something else.. why, because it says something else? Or because your 'world-wide experts' call it 'the gold standard'? Spin spin spin.


One World. Excelsior! :-D

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:09 am
by teesdale
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
The link i provided has been described as the gold standard on multiple occasions by many people from all over the world when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.

For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.



http://sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html
then why argue it now? trust it, and beleive all is well, nobody died, or look at the actual link Jules provided #-o

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:44 am
by KOS
is a bit odd though that both the Sandy Hook and the Batman killings were done by grandchildren of people who worked for DARPA... IMO

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:59 am
by [KMA]Avenger
teesdale wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
The link i provided has been described as the gold standard on multiple occasions by many people from all over the world when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.

For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.



http://sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html
then why argue it now? trust it, and beleive all is well, nobody died, or look at the actual link Jules provided #-o

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MxTEFUZhS4[/youtube]


How the hell do i post a YT video?

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:40 am
by Mental
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
teesdale wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
The link i provided has been described as the gold standard on multiple occasions by many people from all over the world when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.

For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.



http://sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html
then why argue it now? trust it, and beleive all is well, nobody died, or look at the actual link Jules provided #-o




How the hell do i post a YT video?
You need to take the video code and wrap it in tags like this [youtube]_MxTEFUZhS4[/youtube ]

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:00 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Mental wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
teesdale wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
The link i provided has been described as the gold standard on multiple occasions by many people from all over the world when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.

For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.



http://sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html
then why argue it now? trust it, and beleive all is well, nobody died, or look at the actual link Jules provided #-o

Ah!

Thanks!




How the hell do i post a YT video?
You need to take the video code and wrap it in tags like this [youtube]_MxTEFUZhS4[/youtube ]

Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:11 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Juliette wrote:
minisaiyan wrote:so you suggest we ignore one fbi link in favour of one that agrees with your agenda. Take them both in balance to form an opinion or don't bother.
Agreed.


A single source does not suffice -does it ever?- unless a generalising statement is made along the lines of "X says no one was killed". When X is proven to say at least one person was killed, the earlier generalising statement is false, or in need of specification. :)
I used my link to point to the FBI saying something other than what they are said to say by the OP, not as the answer to whether or not people died at Sandy Hook, which is a wholly different matter.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:The link i provided has been described as the gold standard
Define 'gold standard'.
[KMA]Avenger wrote: on multiple occasions
When?
[KMA]Avenger wrote: by many people from all over the world
By whom?
[KMA]Avenger wrote:when quoting crime figures because of the way those numbers are compiled.
Really? What makes your official report 'better' than the official report I linked?
[KMA]Avenger wrote:For that reason i trust it. has nothing to do with an agenda.
Except it is apparently a single source that agrees with your bold claim. We are then to disregard a source -directly from the FBI as much as your source (even more, since yours is several more steps away from the actual investigations)- that says something else.. why, because it says something else? Or because your 'world-wide experts' call it 'the gold standard'? Spin spin spin.


One World. Excelsior! :-D

Ummmm.....not going to go point by point, don't fancy being here a whole day to reply lol


Gold standard is how it's described by police from all over the world. i've read multiple articles from multiple sources when reporting crime figures complied by the FBI citing the source as the FBI (the above link) and quoting it as the "gold Standard". unless you can show me they are not the "gold standard"?

As for the investigations...lol how about they investigate the parents actually being paid actors? or how about kids reported as dead actually still alive. when i heard that i actually did think "this is too weird even for me!" so i went and had a look, lo and behold there are YT videos of the "parents" laughing and joking prior to going on air and then fake crying. go see for yourself. there are also pictures of some of the kids reported as dead actually alive and well. watch the video i posted above of Robert David Steele saying the school was actually closed, there were no kids there. also, nobodies were taken to hospital, dead or injured.

Look up Wolfgang Halbig ( http://sandyhookjustice.com/ ), the guys credentials are impeccable. go to his site and see some of the info he has. then come back and tell me kids died there.



Re: FBI Says nobody died at Sandy Hook.

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:01 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Mystery: Sandy Hook Victim Dies (again) in Pakistan.

http://www.infowars.com/mystery-sandy-h ... -pakistan/