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The alliance was given a game for the Halloween weekend, take down the highest defense of a player not affiliated with an alliance. Game was given to boost moral, increase activity, and general education on how to take down defenses easily. Game was quite effective, for all you mid range alliance leaders...

BenHur was the only victim who came forward asking for repayment, it was denied.

BenHur promptly then began making threats at the alliance and acted on them.

No diplomacy at this time, just war.

Go Ben Hur, If you need anything pm me here.

Go Ben

I demand repayment for BenHur.

The individual is interssting to say the least. Not sure what their angle is yet. I have taken then to 0 deffense only to have them spend enough Naq to get off a few pop shots at our lowest members. Then take them back dowm agian. He seems to be on a suicide mission with no reasoning.


Good luck to you Benhur

Latest message from Benhur???????? Can't tell if he's trying to insult me for being a woman????


Subject:

Message text:

ou no!woman want to mass me ou i cry no no anymore!

BH

go 1vs1 with him and you wont be woman

So let me get this right?

- Your alliance is issued orders to go and random mass.
- BenHur gets massed, randomly, without provocation.
- He seeks reimbursement for the random massing, you refuse.
- He attacks you back, as you refused to replace losses.
- You get your entire alliance to sit on him.

That about sum it up?

BenHur, good luck. Hopefully you remember some of the lessons from your time in TÅF and show them what it can mean to mess with the wrong people.

~Norbe~

Norbe wrote:So let me get this right?

- Your alliance is issued orders to go and random mass.
- BenHur gets massed, randomly, without provocation.
- He seeks reimbursement for the random massing, you refuse.
- He attacks you back, as you refused to replace losses.
- You get your entire alliance to sit on him.

That about sum it up?

BenHur, good luck. Hopefully you remember some of the lessons from your time in TÅF and show them what it can mean to mess with the wrong people.

~Norbe~

have fun ben

Norbe wrote:So let me get this right?

- Your alliance is issued orders to go and random mass.
- BenHur gets massed, randomly, without provocation.
- He seeks reimbursement for the random massing, you refuse.
- He attacks you back, as you refused to replace losses.
- You get your entire alliance to sit on him.

That about sum it up?

BenHur, good luck. Hopefully you remember some of the lessons from your time in TÅF and show them what it can mean to mess with the wrong people.

~Norbe~

Ben wanted paid back in full, and more. That was cause for refusal (Not to mention it was under a 10T defense, which wasn't our biggest take down. 32T was, and that player has yet to request anything...). How is this action taken, any worse than an ME going to find semi active players/IA's to get his/her ME up.

I refer you to Zeon's thread about how players are nowadays demanding repayment for loses.

We didnot declar war on him until after 3 days of him attacking our members in his demand for repayment. He stated I will continue to be in your alliance attack long for infinity unless I am payed back. He was then informed we will not give in to extortion and would in turn make him the alliance farm if he did not back away with the current losses.

This did not need to escalate. No other members except the original 1:1 were invloved until he statrted massing others within our alliance out of his demands.

P.S I have not in in the CW for a great amount of time. Why is it we seems to be considered the bad guys?

Field Marshall wrote:I demand repayment for BenHur.

You will have all received a PM ingame, stating my intentions. You have until my PPT end to respond.

Heh, random massing in the first place was a declaration of war

It's all about economies of scale, sure you could make him a farm, but he can also make each and every one of your alliance members a farm, mass whenever he see's something worth his time. For each single defence you can mass, he can mass as many of yours as he likes. Might be worth you giving him what he asked for and chalking this down to experience, every action has a consequence.