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Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:09 am
by Quina Quen
(Sorry).

Seem to be picking up conflicting information on what happens when ascending an NG Main account - does it create an associated ascended server account?

Also, slightly more obscure (and applies to the above also if the answer is yes) - if you never log in to an ascended account post first ascension on a standard main account, does the account exist/is it created? (This potentially stupid question is not my own by the way! Another bigger noob than I wonders - I'm doubting it to be honest ;) )

Kind of like if a tree falls in the forest and nobody witnesses it, does it make a sound :D

Thanks in advance.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:13 am
by Duderanch
An ascended account isn't created until you ascend it in main from Conquerer of the new world to UnSpeakable (i think that's 21 anyway).

Not sure if you never log in to it once it's created if it's decendable or not, guess that's a question for sol.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:15 am
by Clockwork
Duderanch wrote:Not sure if you never log in to it once it's created if it's decendable or not, guess that's a question for sol.
It exists, therefore it can be descended.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:18 am
by Quina Quen
Cheers DR :) I did mean if you ascend a COTNW to the next one, yeah - so it does.

Going off a thread on this forum, player 'X' states the sale of an NGM at UKN level with no ascended account? I'm confused as to how this is possible now.

Thanks for the confirmation Clockwork, as I thought :)

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:27 am
by Clockwork
General Riviera wrote:Going off a thread on this forum, player 'X' states the sale of an NGM at UKN level with no ascended account? I'm confused as to how this is possible now.
Back when Newgrounds was first released, it was possible to *buy* ascended levels via the black market. Doing so would simply increase the ascension level of the account on the Main server. So it was possible to buy the remaining 3 levels to get a Conquerer to Unknown, without creating the ascended account.

This was fixed shortly afterwards, but a couple of NGM's exist at Unknown level without having a linked Ascended account. It has been mentioned in the past by Admin that there might be negative effects on those NGM's at some future date.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:29 am
by Quina Quen
Helpful as always Clockwork, thank you very much. :)

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:12 pm
by teesdale
General Riviera wrote: if you never log in to an ascended account post first ascension on a standard main account, does the account exist/is it created?
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this is an old old old glitch, but im pretty sure it was fixed a long time ago.

during 05/06/07 era i believe, if you ascended for the first time and never logged into the ascended account, it was there, but remained unranked... so it existed, but could never be found by others to attack it.
i'm pretty positive its forced into the rankings now on the first turn change regardless of if you log or not

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:17 pm
by Quina Quen
Interesting history Teesdale, cheers :)

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:29 pm
by Zarakai Kenpachi
I have a question and ima goona hijack this thread instead of making a new one for a question i cant find the answer to but probably know already.

so......................

I have a regular main account(Zarakai_Kenpachi) when i get my NG account to lvl20 ascended itll give me a new account that will be called *Zarakai_Kenpachi. Heres my question. Can i broker stuff from my actual Main account to my NG Main account and just get rid of the actual main acc?

you let me know if im being stupid here.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:51 pm
by shruiken
I believe the answer is no you can't as you are at the same IP address.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:36 pm
by Duderanch
You can broker but you can't send direct or attack.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:10 am
by Quina Quen
I've tried already to broker between one and the other and it gives me the IP warning.

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:02 am
by Duderanch
Really? Should PM Juliette as you should be able to broker. Either that or i've been unknowingly bug abusing for years :-"

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:12 am
by Quina Quen
That's odd. I've just tried it again and it worked. Either I'm losing the plot or it didn't work when I first tried it.

EDIT: Actually, I was right (as far my account is concerned at least). It allows you to place the broker but when trying to accept it it states "You cannot trade with one who has shared your internet location, or with whom you or they have shared their account login. "

Re: Yet another NG question...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:22 am
by Duderanch
Like i said, i broker naq/uu/ats back and forward all the time, i would suggest contacting the administration.