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The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:59 am
by Quina Quen
Woo - finally produced a main multi from NG. Took a while! (PS the guide on the forum is out of date).

I'm in two minds whether or not to push it through the three further available ascensions to take it to Unknown. I rather like the title Conquerer of the New World too. An extra 3% stat bonus for the extra maintenance of a further ascended server account?

So, on balance, what do people think?

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:41 am
by teesdale
cotnw = undescendable, in return 3% less stats and 3% less chance of AB.

depends on if you like asc or not :D

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:28 am
by Quina Quen
I don't actually remember how to play ascended it's been that long. I was never particularly good at it to be begin in all honesty. I think knowing I won't have to worry about an ascended account is enough to convince me, cheers :D

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:10 am
by Mathlord
If you play ascended, absolutely yes. If not, it's less essential and don't worry about it.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:21 pm
by Oreo
Iv gone for the undescendable approach, why ?

Well in war 1 account won't be Descended so I get bonuses all year round
It can be used as a IC boost account so +s for me thier with low cost to set up also to hold UU for my main
I keep all the ME on my main account
it get the same turns and MT whether TUK or COTNW
Also as a COTNW I still get the fleets for extra planet steals

But obviously I miss out on all the +s of having a 2ND ascended account but your only allowed one accounts in tournaments

So it must just come down to what server your gunna play the most !?


I hope that may help some how.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:54 pm
by ~Odin~
Most people stay with CoTNW or wish they had lol. I kinda wish I had with my NG but then again I also play ascended on a regularish basis so its not to bad for me. However for someone that isn't as active or would have to re-learn ascended etc perhaps not the best idea.

Put it this way, you can always not ascended then choose to ascend at a later date. However you can't ascend then press an undo button. Well unless you wanna descend and go the daimon route but then you lose all AB.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:00 pm
by Kikaz
~Odin~ wrote:Well unless you wanna descend and go the daimon route but then you lose all AB.
And get double unit losses when attacking and defending.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:34 pm
by Quina Quen
Interesting, and thank you Oreo, Odin and Kikaz for your thoughts.

I did end up ascending my account as it happens. I figure I've gone one, I might as well go the other two to UKN.

Would someone be kind enough to advise on the pro's and con's of becoming a daimon?

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:54 pm
by Clockwork
Pro:-
You get the best looking UI in the game.

Cons:-
Everything else.

That about covers it as simply as possible :P

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:58 pm
by Quina Quen
Not the most helpful this time CW ;)

Feel free by the way to shift this topic to the newbie/FAQ section. Realised it does't really fit in general.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:11 am
by Duderanch
Honestly Clock's description is pretty spot on, you get no ascended bonus, double unit losses and don't collect g&r so you can't ascend or use that part of the market.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:28 am
by Kikaz
Forum on Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:49 am wrote: Descending yourself PERMANENTLY is in place. You become a Daimon -1/2 diety/1/2 mortal. You get the 'vacation bonuses' minus the ascended blessing. You can move to a mortal race, but thats it...
If on vacation, you get ascended blessing AT HALF THE SUCCESS RATE AS NON VACATION along with 1/2 bonus on the rest...


update on Daimon: the battle losses from a daimon are double (on each side) and casualities on covert (ie the spies dying) are double...No glory either.
this makes it not only a bit more of a penalty, but creates a different playing style/option for the whole gameplay :)
General Riviera wrote:Not the most helpful this time CW ;)
Clockwork wrote:Pro:-
You get the best looking UI in the game.

Cons:-
Everything else.

That about covers it as simply as possible :P

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:57 am
by Quina Quen
What happens to your title?

If you were an Unknown for example, would you still be one despite being a Daimon? Do you lose the accumulated stat bonus too?

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:00 am
by Kikaz
There is none, you appear as a unascended player.

No.
No.

Re: The +'s and -'s of Ascending a CoTNW

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:08 am
by Quina Quen
That isn't too bad.

You'd still have your forty percent bonus (or whatever it is) from being a UKN at the time of 'daimonising' yourself? Except you'd have no ascended account to worry about at the expense of not having a fancy red title along with double battle losses. I can live with that. I think.