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PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:12 am
by reborn
After are chat other day but you said it wasnt possable of someone playing around with others PPT's

I said i would screen shot them from now on, cus i know what i did.....

So today i login i have 3 mins left on PPT and 1 min left before T/C.

Everyone knows you will then go minus min's until next turn change because you will have already passed the turn being on PPT , same as with merlin planets coming off after the turn change.

But i have not just screen shot it this time, as you said that could be faked, i left a sepertate tab open with the timer of showing 3 mins left on PPT with 1 min left till turn change.

I Came back 20 mins later and i was off PPT.........

Something aint right with this and smells fishy as i pm you, im more than willing to show you on team view aswell the tab is still there to be seen. Of me being on ppt with 3 mins left with 1 min to go.

So how can i be off ppt when im back 20 mins later??? I should of still been on.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:14 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
Lol it's always been like that, stop being a lil **Filtered** because you lost ure duals. It's not guaranteed to go into - time.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:17 am
by reborn
its always been liek what?

You always go into minus mins or have you not noticed that?

We cant all be like your cheat with brokers and think its ok to rip everyone off.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:25 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
:smt043 sometimes it goes into - sometimes it doesn't..


Brokers :P well that would explain how i magically got another 5q in my bank =D>

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:28 am
by reborn
Right so what your saying it your half way through a turn your ppt runs out, opps my ppt drops???

It doesnt happen you really not that thick are you, PPT's drop[ on T/C just like on ascended and have always been same in main.

You do not just random drop ppt mid way through turn.

It does not happen.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:34 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
Not half way through a turn il give you that, i thought you meant after TC if you had a few minutes left.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:36 am
by T R U X
i have never ever seen ppt do that, it always goes into the minus no matter what.. if you ppt mid turn you always get the next turn regardless

i purposely go on ppt at the end so i get an extra 30 mins in case i am late and never once has it dropped mid turn

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:44 am
by D3ath
haha lol :D thats hilarious how taf noobs dont even know how this game works and just sprouts their bs all the time.

I can confirm that in the past ppt would always go to -even if u would have 0 minutes protection left on tc. so not sure whats went wrong there, was it some game timers or some other **Filtered** but it shouldnt be like what just happened here. :)

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:04 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
Taf noobs? your on vac 24/7 and sit on nox all your life :smt043 ... funny how a glitch happens just when you loose duals ](*,) well gl getting them back and hopefully we can catch another one of your ppt 'glitches' :smt091

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:25 am
by reborn
W8 a second im offering JO to see i was on ppt via team view, as i do and still have that tab open..............but you making out like its not a gligth and im making it up?

Honsetly do you even think things through when ur typing......

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:02 am
by Clockwork
I've seen this happen a few times in the past, not recently though.

It happened a fair bit during the lag fest of 2014, I put that down to the slow turn changes pushing the ppt calculation past the ppt end time.

I've seen it once during Bloodwar, but that's a bit of a special case anyway. I've also seen it happen once or twice on its own.

Can't easily reproduce the behaviour during normal play, so not really spent much time trying, but here is what I observed. Excluding the cases mentioned above, I have never seen it happen while being online at turn change and refreshing a page after the TC has happened. I have never seen it happen after a pure PPT (no alliance ppt mixed in).

The -minus time PPT was considered a bug, and there was a chat at one of the IRC admin meets about it when Support took over, nobody seemed keen for it to get fixed :P

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:03 am
by Mathlord
Did you make sure your farming script was turned off reborn? You may have accidentally spied someone.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:31 am
by reborn
spied someone when i wasnt here????

Thats a new one but no........ no attack nor spy logs or anything. Jo as i said can look for herself all tabs are here.

But im kind of interested if im farming with this so called script......why would i be spying them? , something to tell us about scripts there Math?

But whats more dumb about that is if im about to farm i would be breaking PPT anyway, your question just makes no sense its just a plain dumb ass question.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:52 am
by Support
It is not a bug, but I can imagine inconvenient.
It is also not new.
And also not 'someone' messing with your PPT.


Context: For the game to process the turn change can take up to 2/3 minutes, depending on how busy you guys have been and whether or not an archival run needs to happen (you want these to run, otherwise .. well, see the mess in 2013, 'Time Wars' anyone?).
This has been the case since pretty much forever, but doesn't usually have consequences; as Clockwork mentioned it is something we discussed in admin chats - we decided that nothing should be done to change the PPT calculations.

Case: When you take the risk of cutting it close with your PPT, timing it within minutes of turn change, you take the risk of turn change cutting off your PPT.

Conclusion: Take less risks. Assuming you will just get 29.9 extra minutes of PPT is folly. (Now, if you were to gamble with 10-20-ish minutes.. different ballpark.)



No bug.

Re: PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:34 am
by harchester
:smt100