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Stats Question
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:21 pm
by RononDex
I'm a little unclear on how your men and weapons (number and strength) fit into the different types of "action" (Strike, Defense, Covert, etc.). For instance, it your action # all the ultimately matters?
However, I'm really curious as to what kind of action (or how many men and weps) people of different rank have. Specifically the defense and covert stats. So, if you're willing, post your rank (or approximate it) along with your defense action (or number of men/weps) and covert action. If you're worried about giving away intelligence, just post anonymously and fudge your rank a few points. Thanks!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:25 pm
by The Xeno
Well, remember that total rank is a sort of average of your stats.
So there are ppl in the 6K's with rank 42 covert, but no strike and no def.
Currently you need about 6bill in M/S to get it to the low 80s
About 2bill def for 1.3K and about 35bill covert for the mid 400 (450ish)s
As for your question, power not rank determines battles and such.
So yes, unless I misread your post, it's the action part that counts.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:31 pm
by RononDex
I just never really understood...
For instance, when I'm training SS defenders... should I buy one weapon for each of them? Or does it not really matter?
The reason I'm asking specifically about defense and covert action is that I'm not really interested in ascension... but was wondering what kind of stats I'd have to have in these 2 areas to keep from being spied upon/farmed by all but the most powerful.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:43 pm
by The Xeno
One wep for each, or they will be unarmed and do no damage.
It really depends onwhat you are making per night.
You should be fairly safe at 70mill/night and under with a bill def and 15-20bill covert.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:17 pm
by Afentius
holy crap, dude, 30mil covert? I have 3 mil covert, and thats with 20k spies and lvl 20... I think he meant 3bil covert lvl...
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:22 pm
by The Xeno
WHo is teh Dude,
and who is he?
I need names
<selfEdit> Ahh. I think i might see the problem, whenever i say covert, I am refering to covert power. Does that help? Mabye? I am so confused atm

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:46 pm
by Afentius
The Xeno wrote:One wep for each, or they will be unarmed and do no damage.
It really depends onwhat you are making per night.
You should be fairly safe at 70mill/night and under with a bill def and 15-20bill covert.
this is what you said
under a bil defence
and 15-20bil covert
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wish I had that kinda covert...
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:00 pm
by Setesh
my covert action is 54 bill, and its barely ranked 350
There are players higher up that have spy level 26, and i believe juan and daff hold spy level 27
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:12 pm
by Afentius
yeah, thanks alot, I'm now going to go commit suicide
54 bil? Unfair
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:28 pm
by Setesh
mrps4200 wrote:yeah, thanks alot, I'm now going to go commit suicide
54 bil? Unfair
Rather low compared to some of the people I know

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:37 pm
by urogard
Setesh(Bad Wolf pwns you) wrote:mrps4200 wrote:yeah, thanks alot, I'm now going to go commit suicide
54 bil? Unfair
Rather low compared to some of the people I know

those numbers are really arbitrary. I mean. At the really high covert action it doesn't matter too much how many spies you got. It's the covert level that is the king. I mean I'll have 500k and have 1 covert level over Juan, then he'd either have to have 1 mil spies or get that additional covert level.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:39 pm
by Setesh
halamala wrote:Setesh(Bad Wolf pwns you) wrote:mrps4200 wrote:yeah, thanks alot, I'm now going to go commit suicide
54 bil? Unfair
Rather low compared to some of the people I know

those numbers are really arbitrary. I mean. At the really high covert action it doesn't matter too much how many spies you got. It's the covert level that is the king. I mean I'll have 500k and have 1 covert level over Juan, then he'd either have to have 1 mil spies or get that additional covert level.
And at that level, it'd probably be cheaper to train 1 mill more spies
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:40 pm
by RononDex
I'm looking at every one's join date's here and I'm thinking, damn... how do u guys have such high stats? Are you all ascended?
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:43 pm
by Setesh
sonicdevo wrote:I'm looking at every one's join date's here and I'm thinking, damn... how do u guys have such high stats? Are you all ascended?
Personally I've only ascended once, but I'm sacrificing my spy level 22 to ascend again

decided to continue ascending, rather than be stuck at 5% my whole career -.-
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:50 pm
by Spacey
mrps4200 wrote:Unfair
Hardly. Don't forget about the multipliers. Someone could have a hign covert because of their race(Reps), or a strong defense because of being Asguard, etc. If you lack on one area you make up for it in another, or mostly make up for it, as there are still debates. The grass is not always greener on the other side.
sonicdevo wrote:I'm looking at every one's join date's here and I'm thinking, damn... how do u guys have such high stats? Are you all ascended?
Patience, and learning from others. One of the best ways to improve your standing is to learn as much as you can. Knowledge empowers.
K
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