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I dont see why there are not Sergants, Captains, and Generals you can buy.....What Im thinking is that for every 1,000 soldiers you could purchase 1 Sergant and for every 100,000 soldiers you can buy 1 Captian and for every 1 million soldiers you can buy 1 General......those number are just numbers I thought of so the NUMBERS CAN BE CHANGED IF NEEDED....The 3 groups of catagories(Sergants, Captians, and Generals) would all have a an added bonus
EXAMPLE:.......1 Sergant gives 5% percent bonus to ONLY the 1,000 troops......Now i am not sure how the numbers all come out so 5% percent maybe a hole lot or way to little so let the mods figure that out......Since there are guys with like 10 million soldier(I think) you might want to cap the amount of Sgt. and Cpt. and Gen. But then again you might not want to cap it.....

There is only one down side I see at this moment.....The large players will get more powerful.....BUT....I dont see a problem because the small players also have the option to them as well....So in my opion it should not be an issue.....

As for Cost: Sgt. would cost maybe around 50 Million...Note(maybe to high or too low)
Cpt. would cost maybe around 100Million...Note(maybe to high or too low)
Gen. would cost maybe around 150Milion...Note(maybe to high or too low)

Anyways i looked through the forums and saw nothin like this so forgive me if i missed a thread that had this idea.....

Intresting concept, think its been brought up before though.

i think its a great idea

Yeah, that'd be awesome!

We just have to make sure that suddenly it doesn't become better to have masses of unsuper soldiers simply for the bonus.

Okay, lets think about what the cost should be...

167800 + 2000 + 89000 = 258800 <-- cost of 1 super soldier w/ weapon.

258800 * 1000 = 258,800,000 <-- cost of 1000 super soldiers w/ weapon.

258,800,000 * 0.05 = 12,940,000 naquadah <--- cost of getting a 5% boost if you got it by buying 5% more guys, and therefore the "perfect" cost for our sergeant...

However, that would make him perfectly fair, we want to make him worth his cost... Say, 11,940,000 naquadah.

Now, obviously the perfect naquadah cost for the other two would just be 10x that, so why not make our cost just 10x and 100x of the "worth it" cost.

Sgt. - 11,940,000
Cpt. - 119,400,000
Gen. - 1,194,000,000

Your cost seem reasonably fair but it should not be so cheep....that its like buying a merc....I think it should be like a "specail gift" you get. It takes work to get the 1,000 troops then it will take some more work to get the Sgt. Other wise its too easy....but I kinda see where you are goin with the math....and I think we are headed in the right direction if this where to come true.....

headed in the right direction???

I found out the cost which would have the exact same efficiency as simply buying more super soldiers. If it is just as expensive it will only be worth it because you save UU, and if it is less expensive, it will also be more naquadah efficient.

Although, I need ascended troop costs & wep costs if we're to do that right too...

(PM me if you have 'em)

If you want the guys to cost more you have to increase their bonus... Which I think is a very bad idea, don't go over 10% because that way if someone has a general, captain, and sergeant for all their guys they are getting a 30% bonus.

At 10% your costs would be 25.something mil naq, and ten times that, and ten times that.

You make a good point....You could just keep the bonus the same and raise the price....but you make sence so i will go with what you are saying....

Antec wrote:I dont see why there are not Sergants, Captains, and Generals you can buy.....What Im thinking is that for every 1,000 soldiers you could purchase 1 Sergant and for every 100,000 soldiers you can buy 1 Captian and for every 1 million soldiers you can buy 1 General......those number are just numbers I thought of so the NUMBERS CAN BE CHANGED IF NEEDED....The 3 groups of catagories(Sergants, Captians, and Generals) would all have a an added bonus
EXAMPLE:.......1 Sergant gives 5% percent bonus to ONLY the 1,000 troops......Now i am not sure how the numbers all come out so 5% percent maybe a hole lot or way to little so let the mods figure that out......Since there are guys with like 10 million soldier(I think) you might want to cap the amount of Sgt. and Cpt. and Gen. But then again you might not want to cap it.....

There is only one down side I see at this moment.....The large players will get more powerful.....BUT....I dont see a problem because the small players also have the option to them as well....So in my opion it should not be an issue.....

As for Cost: Sgt. would cost maybe around 50 Million...Note(maybe to high or too low)
Cpt. would cost maybe around 100Million...Note(maybe to high or too low)
Gen. would cost maybe around 150Milion...Note(maybe to high or too low)

Anyways i looked through the forums and saw nothin like this so forgive me if i missed a thread that had this idea.....

I don't like the idea, sorry

Can you tell me why you dont like the idea cause then maybe we can fix the problem....or do you just not want to have to buy those things??

I think it would be compicated to introduce for no real net benefit to the game.

Yeah there is a benefit....You get more units to try to get....it gives you a smaller goals to achieve rather than being #1....It makes your army stronger....I cant see why you could even say there is no benefit....of course there is benefits....with and "s"

Sorry if it sounded rude i just woke up....

Antec wrote:Yeah there is a benefit....You get more units to try to get....it gives you a smaller goals to achieve rather than being #1....It makes your army stronger....I cant see why you could even say there is no benefit....of course there is benefits....with and "s"

Sorry if it sounded rude i just woke up....

Perhaps then if you stated the benefits so that we may be enlightened?

But 'makes your army stronger' is a hardly a goal that doesn't already exist is it?

And how is 'gives you more units to get' a benefit?

Besides - this would be one of those suggestions that would make the already powerful relatively more powerful as they are the ones with the biggest armies, therefore able to buy the most of these new units, and they also have the naq resources to back it up.

This would widen the gulf between the powerful and the weak.

I love the idea. How ever, for different races there will have to be different names. Perhaps Goa'uld would have a "Goa'uld underling" - "Asshrak" - "Warmaster" or something cool like First Prime. Replicator would just have "forth" - "third" and "Second" and Asgard something like commander, surpreme commander.

Wolf you have to relise that almost all updates to the game are going to make the strong stronger.....Thats just how the game works....Besides the less strong have the option to buy the same guys so its fair the only draw back is they might not have as much money to buy the Unit.....Take mothership for example pretty much only the strong can have it cause you have to save a pretty big sum of naq for it.....The big players have them the little little players dont....I dont see the mods taking that out of the game so if they implement this it would be a luxery for those able to aford it...

Thats why i suggested a cap so the strong cant buy 50 Generals....but most players wont like it.....I forgot to throw that in the top paragragh....

The goal is.....Yes I got to 10,000 Units *celebrate* I can buy a Captian now.... ok now Going for another 10k uu....

Thats an example of getting to a short term goal that this update what make on players....

I think it was mentioned above that players would just stack units in there attack force buy 5 Sgt. and take the uu out of the attack force....What you could do is have it so that if that happened then when you where taking out the stacked units there would be a message "You can not have more Sgt. than troops to do this you have to sell your access Sgt./Capt./Gen."

Sell *box* you put the number of Sgt. you wish to sell.....there would be one for each group....

That would stop the people from have 20 Sgt. and only 10,000 Soldiers....

Yeah, this idea is a pretty good one and I think admin has to use it. The game needs something new.