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I have either sent or received a total of 93 brokers since march 16th so I have had my good share of broker experiences and i have finally decided on what are the best things to do to make it better becuase right now it feels like a Beta release

Sending Naquadah Deals

Sending Large sums of Naq are mostly fine and most traders on SGW are good, even the inexperienced ones but there is room for problems, for one you cant cancel a sent broker, which means if the guy you send naq to either rejects or doesn't ever accept it you are liable to end up with a heap of naq out in ur treasury and i dont know about everyone else but just coz the other person feels " Oh its a just a game " doesn't mean Just becuase its a game i want to not care about loosing 20 or 30 bill of my naq ... Its my Choice if i want to be farmed or not so i want to keep " My Choice "

Fix: Either the naq banks automatically or sits in the broker and i can click a withdraw button and also add a cancel broker button so u can cancel a deal at anytime.

Sending UU

Much the same as above or worse.. getting raided masses your defence, in general.. kinda ruins your account for a good few days.

Fix: Much the same as above

Bank Cheating

The Above Fixes can allow for Naq Bank Cheating.. to avoid this when you cancel a sent broker if you dont have enough bank space to get your naq back you aren't allowed to " withdraw " instead you can click a tick box to choose to withdraw to the treasury instead.

This can apply to all trades, Naquadah sits in a broker reservoir and u can extract it to ur bank if u have the space or tick box for a treasury withdraw.

with UU the same, a reservoir.

Thanks for Reading.

i got a slightly improved idea.
if you send someone a trade and he rejects then everything is in the open.
why not make an additional button that appears after someone rejects your button.
will be something like "return goods home"
when you press it the naq-uu's-at's will be put into your account (naq will be in the open, not bank).
this could prevent bad things happening.

and as to prevent cheating i'd make a 2 day cooldown period before you can withdraw any "trade" of naq/at's/uu's without penalty. if you want to do it sooner i'd say you loose 25% of naq, 2% uu's (or 1.5% up to debate), and 1% at's (yes you can also cheat with at's)

halamala wrote:i got a slightly improved idea.
if you send someone a trade and he rejects then everything is in the open.
why not make an additional button that appears after someone rejects your button.
will be something like "return goods home"
when you press it the naq-uu's-at's will be put into your account (naq will be in the open, not bank).
this could prevent bad things happening.

and as to prevent cheating i'd make a 2 day cooldown period before you can withdraw any "trade" of naq/at's/uu's without penalty. if you want to do it sooner i'd say you loose 25% of naq, 2% uu's (or 1.5% up to debate), and 1% at's (yes you can also cheat with at's)

I totally agree!!

i deffinatly think that their should be a cancle button, the amount of times i have acidently refreshed the page and sent the things twice, luckly i havnt been trading with scamemrs and they have kindly clicked reject.

-3rd

another thing that could be done is if someone rejects or cancels your trade the recources could be suspended until you log in then when you do everything comes out. Like VAC mode

halamala wrote:i got a slightly improved idea.
if you send someone a trade and he rejects then everything is in the open.
why not make an additional button that appears after someone rejects your button.
will be something like "return goods home"
when you press it the naq-uu's-at's will be put into your account (naq will be in the open, not bank).
this could prevent bad things happening.)

Thats exactly what i said kinda...

halamala wrote:and as to prevent cheating i'd make a 2 day cooldown period before you can withdraw any "trade" of naq/at's/uu's without penalty. if you want to do it sooner i'd say you loose 25% of naq, 2% uu's (or 1.5% up to debate), and 1% at's (yes you can also cheat with at's)

Totally Disagree, defeats the purpose of the features i proposed...

nice idea, stuff should be held in suspension as soon as you login it will all come out, cos usually the first thing that you do when you loggin is rush to bank/spend your naq, so you shouldnt be affected. Also it saves your uu from beign raided whilst your out.
I also do not like the banking over the limit , the bank is designed with a limit for a reason,
SO what should happen is the resources from any trade is held within a resevioure (however you spell it) it all goes out into the open once you login but if your already logged in when someone completes a trade with you, it doesnt automatically shoot out cos you could be logged in but viewing theforumns for exampel as i am now. Or busy attacking e.t.c.
Instead it is held untill you withdraw it from the broker or next log in. Next to the trades it either says open , completed or rejected, it should also have in it in holding, so if it has been completed but not withdrawn it will say in holding.
Slightly above this table i.e under the update button can be a check box and a button sayign withdraw holdings. (the check button so it is not accidentally pressed and risking the resources)

No naq should ever be banked hence protecting from cheating to go over limit.
I disagree we need a cancel button it is not a nessecity ofcourse it would help but not really nessecary. Generally you dont send brokers such as 1 million of your uu for 1 of there AT because you can send that normally

Thee might be a case where you send 3 bil naq for 1k uu instead of 300 mil , but there is a check system to click the button twice for a reason.
The massive added benefit of this is this. If someone uses a macro to for exampel buy a certain amounts of weapons a turn as to spend there naqudah , if someone completed a trade to give them 50 bil then once the macro logs in it will automatically drop 50 bil out in the open its not human so it wont rush to bank/spend it, it will go to the armourey do what it is told to, and then log out , leavign the cheater with all his traded goods otu in the open - JUSTICE!!! , oh yeah !!!

-- also atm you get a message in your inbox tellign you a trade has been completed or rejected , i think you should to be emailed when someone offers you a broker, because everyone checks there mail but not always there broker i mean i always check mine now but it'd be easier to look at the mail to see whether i need to check the broker, i mean you bothered to make sure we were aware of a trade being completed even tho it is shown in the broker why not when you open trades aswell, not necasessarily the ones you open you should know those but ones sent to you.

Here's a random idea, "Only trade with people you trust" or if you are sending large sums of naq, have them broker you for it

RepliJake wrote:Here's a random idea, "Only trade with people you trust" or if you are sending large sums of naq, have them broker you for it

i do, but this is not what the thread is about, for example my ideas about the holding is to stop your stuff getting nicked on broker trades completed whislt your not around.
the broker kills scammers anyway so you dont really havbe to worry abotu trust issues half the time, its just safety we are lookign for.

12agnar0k wrote:

RepliJake wrote:Here's a random idea, "Only trade with people you trust" or if you are sending large sums of naq, have them broker you for it

i do, but this is not what the thread is about, for example my ideas about the holding is to stop your stuff getting nicked on broker trades completed whislt your not around.
the broker kills scammers anyway so you dont really havbe to worry abotu trust issues half the time, its just safety we are lookign for.

The you should organise when your trades go through, if naq goes though while you are not there, it goes into your bank, if naq is rejected then it is your fault for trading with someone that was either unable to trade or untrustworthy

RepliJake wrote:

12agnar0k wrote:

RepliJake wrote:Here's a random idea, "Only trade with people you trust" or if you are sending large sums of naq, have them broker you for it

i do, but this is not what the thread is about, for example my ideas about the holding is to stop your stuff getting nicked on broker trades completed whislt your not around.
the broker kills scammers anyway so you dont really havbe to worry abotu trust issues half the time, its just safety we are lookign for.

The you should organise when your trades go through, if naq goes though while you are not there, it goes into your bank, if naq is rejected then it is your fault for trading with someone that was either unable to trade or untrustworthy

Yeah what he said and it goes double with me, but as for Vis i've gotten over 750 trades and i've yet to lose anything on them. So just be careful who and HOW you trade and you will be fine.