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ascention vacation

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:45 am
by god of darkness
admin can you for the fun of the game link main vacation with ascended vacation.
there are a lot of guys in ascention who are like a year on vacation.
this would make ascention more fun and more popular.

and enemie's wouldn't be able to run into vacation when they see a guy looking in there direction. :D

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:23 am
by Draleg
But wat do you do with the ppl that like me made LG to get the bonus in main but really dont want to play ascention ?

Hmm , maybe its better to ask : Wil deascention have effects on main account ? if not i dont mind getting deascended , if yes , why ar we forced to play yet an other server.

I totaly agree that somthing has to be done , but dont make deascention take away bonusses in main.

ps: i really need to update my sig :)

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:25 am
by #?#
Draleg wrote:But wat do you do with the ppl that like me made LG to get the bonus in main but really dont want to play ascention ?

Hmm , maybe its better to ask : Wil deascention have effects on main account ? if not i dont mind getting deascended , if yes , why ar we forced to play yet an other server.

I totaly agree that somthing has to be done , but dont make deascention take away bonusses in main.

ps: i really need to update my sig :)


When you ascend you join the other server, to get the bonus in main basically you create an account on ascended to play it, not to stay idle. You aren't forced to play ascension, you forced yourself by ascending.
If descension comes I can hope it would affect the main server account.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:51 am
by BenjaminMS
Refresher, don't act that ridicilous. You know as well as everyone else that Main and Ascension are bound to each other for an specific reason.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:36 pm
by Draleg
Hmm , but you cant get the main bonus if you dont ascend so basicly you start playing one game and if you want to keep up you have to devote even more time to playing , sorry , i really like the game but i wil not be forced in playing more then i feel is good for me and the ppl around me.

The only thing this wil do is more ppl wil sell there account or just leave.
There ar over 50k accounts and only 11k have MS that makes -7k active ppl ( that log on every day ) i think if you connect the diferent servers you wil get even less ppl playing , ppl wil make a choice between main and ascention or quit al together , i know i probably will.

Deascention wil come if we like it or not , and i think its a good thing , but dont punish the ppl that only ascendid to be able to keep up with the LG's.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:27 pm
by #?#
Draleg wrote:Hmm , but you cant get the main bonus if you dont ascend so basicly you start playing one game and if you want to keep up you have to devote even more time to playing , sorry , i really like the game but i wil not be forced in playing more then i feel is good for me and the ppl around me.

The only thing this wil do is more ppl wil sell there account or just leave.
There ar over 50k accounts and only 11k have MS that makes -7k active ppl ( that log on every day ) i think if you connect the diferent servers you wil get even less ppl playing , ppl wil make a choice between main and ascention or quit al together , i know i probably will.

Deascention wil come if we like it or not , and i think its a good thing , but dont punish the ppl that only ascendid to be able to keep up with the LG's.


The LG's will have to play ascension too, or people will farm them to death and they'll get descended too.. They ascended so agreed to play another server to gain bonuses on their main server account, it's one and the other or none ;)

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:42 pm
by #?#
Refresher wrote:well , if deascension will damage main accounts then it is obvious
that most players will choose to protect their main account and use vacation on ascended server.


Beh vacation limits will be put, preventing that..

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:37 am
by Wolf359
Emma Thurman wrote:
Refresher wrote:well , if deascension will damage main accounts then it is obvious
that most players will choose to protect their main account and use vacation on ascended server.


Beh vacation limits will be put, preventing that..


I agree - and the best way to prevent abuse would be to tie the main and ascension vacations together (as god of darkness stated) - i.e. if you go on vacation in one, then your account automatically goes in vacation on the other. You come off vacation in one, and your account goes on vacation in the other.

I also believe that if descension is introduced, given the fact that the introduction of planets has been nothing short of disastrous, that Forum should at least provide us with an outline proposal of what he intends - so that it can be scrutinised and any flaws picked up.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:45 am
by gooseman the first
Wolf359 wrote:
Emma Thurman wrote:
Refresher wrote:well , if deascension will damage main accounts then it is obvious
that most players will choose to protect their main account and use vacation on ascended server.


Beh vacation limits will be put, preventing that..


I agree - and the best way to prevent abuse would be to tie the main and ascension vacations together (as god of darkness stated) - i.e. if you go on vacation in one, then your account automatically goes in vacation on the other. You come off vacation in one, and your account goes on vacation in the other.

I also believe that if descension is introduced, given the fact that the introduction of planets has been nothing short of disastrous, that Forum should at least provide us with an outline proposal of what he intends - so that it can be scrutinised and any flaws picked up.


i whole heartedly agree(aside from planets being useless, i love them, and ive seen your planets wolfy, theyr pretty sweet, i may steal them one day) tis a great idea to make people play the game they love so much

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:26 am
by BenjaminMS
Wolf359 wrote:
Emma Thurman wrote:
Refresher wrote:well , if deascension will damage main accounts then it is obvious
that most players will choose to protect their main account and use vacation on ascended server.


Beh vacation limits will be put, preventing that..


I agree - and the best way to prevent abuse would be to tie the main and ascension vacations together (as god of darkness stated) - i.e. if you go on vacation in one, then your account automatically goes in vacation on the other. You come off vacation in one, and your account goes on vacation in the other.

I also believe that if descension is introduced, given the fact that the introduction of planets has been nothing short of disastrous, that Forum should at least provide us with an outline proposal of what he intends - so that it can be scrutinised and any flaws picked up.


I agree with you (here it comes... also not on the point of the planets...) that vacation should be for BOTH servers then at the same time, to prevent the current abuse of it. So they have some options: either play and keep the bonuses, or descend to what they probably think is a 'weaker' race (would be fun to see some Living Gods instantly descended, LOL :D)

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:19 am
by #?#
Refresher wrote:and how is linking the two accounts gonna help newly ascended players
or just weak ones..
isn't this a upgrade meant to help rich only?
as it obvious that rich main players have stronger ascended accounts..


Both ascneded & main are already linked together, we talk about linking vac mode, how could it benefit only the rich? It's about if you wish to spend all your ascneded time on vac, well you won't be able to play main either, it would be play both server or risk being descended / don't play at all..

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:13 am
by Wolf359
Refresher wrote:they are different servers , its same as linking ppt for them or linking quantum , chaos too... this sort of upgrade will only be unfair for new or small players ... the rich guys already strong in ascension will make it a kill
zone for new players ... or maybe that is the purpose.


It is nothing like linking quantum and chaos! And the ascension and main servers are linked - i.e. you get the bonuses in one for being on the other. The point of this thread is that if you want to use the bonuses in Main then you should have to actually PLAY your ascension account.

Another idea however - if you go on vacation in ascension - make it so that you can still play main - but the ascended bonuses disappear - i.e. ascended vaction = gods have forsaken their followers.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:26 am
by MGZ
Refresher wrote:so this is the purpose, to alienate players from ascended server?
the PPT after ascension lasts 48hrs , after that the rich players who remained
there will just kill and send him back...


descending someone will take an enormous amount of time and AT. I don't think that the top people are going to sit there and descend everyone who comes along in the ascended server. don't be so ridiculous. this is just meant to make people realize that ascending doesn't just mean a bonus to main, it means the responsibility of a whole other account to manage to defend yourself and your shiny new bonuses.

besides, if someone is really going on vacation then naturally they wouldn't be able to play either account, so what's the problem? we just want to see an end to vac. mode abuse.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:10 pm
by Draleg
I happen to think i already paid for my bonus in main with all the uu and traind units i lost by ascending , now deascention is a must , i just think that its not fair to force a player to play a different game , if you ascend now you dont see a disclamer telling you there is a posibility you wil deascend and lose every bonus you got til now , i went to LG+1 just cos spylvl's , lifers and UP can never be taken away once you dont plan on ascending anymore so tell me wat wil deascention do ?

Take away all your bonus in main and give back your race bonus all in one deascention , he i ascendid 6 times so it wil have to take 6 deascentions .

Wat if i want to get my bonus back ? Do i ascend again , do i get my bonus back ? do i rebuy all my spy'lvl's , UP , MS , ... in main after i want to rejoin ascention.

Main is linked with ascention server but not the other way around ,
the only way to get in ascention is ascend in main , there is now way to transfer anything from ascention to main so i think main can not be punished for deascention .

The cost of wanting to rejoin the ascention server is getting 1001 G&R and losing your UP , covert and anticovert lvl's , MS , ... some UU and naq. i think thats a big price to pay if you just put over 800 bill naq in wat you think is your account that wil never lose that investment .

I say make deascention posible but it cant make a differents in main , if you want to rejoin ascention then you pay te price of not playing ascention server by losing all your stuff in main , this way you wil only get ppl playing in ascention that WANT to play ascention not ppl that were FORCED to play.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:27 pm
by Gabriel
My 2 cents is I don't think that desention should affect main, it's a years of work to get to LG and then al of the sudden people who have been playing it and not main can gain an advantage in both because there was never a reason to play asscention because of time constraints to main.

I am all for dessention just not at the cost of losing main build ups. I think that being kicked out of asscention server is plenty of punishment for being desended.

Also the top player could keep it free of others then, It could simply be an alliance of 200 people who decend anyone who comes up and it would put a grinding halt to people who play the game. And either way because of blunders with problems with past updates I hope that forum gives advance warning, and plz let market be up before trying this.