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Re: inside information

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:56 pm
by #?#
Refresher wrote:due to most recent finding about inside information passed by mods to their
alliances i propose that EVERY top 50 alliance must have a mod named from
their members - thus it will grant a equal chance of inside information to their
members .


What Inside Info :?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:13 pm
by *~Starry~*
it's largely unproven... and metioned as cutting and acussational remarks...

>_<

and that would be 50 mods... and it would be unfair to the smaller alliances... (IF they actually cheat... :? )

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:15 pm
by #?#
Refresher when you see this please precise what you mean by "inside infos passed by the mods", never heard of that O.o Looks like a rumor to me..

Also, you can't just name mods like that, it's the supermods/admins who decide, and they won't just make mods because supposedly & unproven inside info rumors are going around

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:33 pm
by *~Starry~*
also... you are practically saying the top 50 alliances should cheat... :?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:12 pm
by #?#
Refresher wrote:well " inside information" is ussually refered as information obtained during
job and used for the benefit of one's good .. in this case speciffically :
IDs, IPs, new upgrades , tactics sugested by players to mods , recently ostracized targets etc.
and i only ask for a equal chance ... not proposing cheat - each mod has his own conscience .
anyway in other aspects of life persons exposed to inside information are
forbidden to have that chance - thus lottery employees are not allowed to gamble etc. , here however most mods do play the game so its only fair
every alliance has the same chance - top 50 will allow a higher grade of
trustworthiness for the new mods.


Your suggestion has 0 chances of being applied, each mod got it's function, having that much would hinder us. For most things you said as "inside info", it can be found by the average player by going around as everyone else. There's already equal chances for everyone. Mod giving insides isn't proved and personally I don't believe a thing that's said with that rumor.

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:30 pm
by #?#
I can assure you that even with a poll it wouldn't be made, mods have functions in the forums, where would you fit those 50 extras?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:35 pm
by *~Starry~*
walking around closing threads that don't please them... as they probably can't be evicted anyways so it'll be "fair"

Also, let's say the 50th and the 51th alliance are having wars, and they keep switching ranks... do you kick one out and the next hour kick the other one out and usher the first one back?? :x

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:49 pm
by kelgor
i understand the perceived problem but i don't think there is any way to "fix" it even if it exists. First, what makes the top 50 alliances special. Setting arbitrary limits is always problematic. Second, the mods don't really have "inside" information; they just are exposed to most of the "public" information. Any dedicated player could easily find the same information.

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:52 pm
by #?#
kelgor wrote:i understand the perceived problem but i don't think there is any way to "fix" it even if it exists. First, what makes the top 50 alliances special. Setting arbitrary limits is always problematic. Second, the mods don't really have "inside" information; they just are exposed to most of the "public" information. Any dedicated player could easily find the same information.


Exactly what I tried to say higher, it's fair for everyone, it's just that most people don't force themselve to work for the info, some does, get it by normal and couldn't-be-more-fair ways and then get bashed with "you got insides from the mods! unfair!"
..

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:51 am
by #?#
Refresher wrote:maybe a list of mods and their alliance membership will show us how fair
the current representation in decisive votes is.
i'm not saying my proposal is perfect , it may very well need some tweaking
so i await more constructive proposals.Also if some1 has evidence of
"inside information" being benefited by mods and their alliance -come forward.


Of course it is not, adding 50 mods would hinder our work, they would mostly be goofing around having no real function, plus did I mention that Supermods wouldn't create the extra mods even if you had evidence?

Work on another idea ;) With evidence this time :roll:

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:06 pm
by #?#
Refresher wrote:we're still waiting for evidence..


I highly doubt that you'll get any.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:41 pm
by Rukia
there is no inside info to be exploited...u actually think forum or shaitan consult mods b4 doing updates?

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:33 am
by Bazsy
Inside info: There is a CF guy who used another name for ascention, and sent a pm to a mod to get ascended forum acces. On the forums he used the main name. And after that what happened: He got massed on ascended, and still didnt get his forum access.... (As i heard the story from him). If its really true, thats usin inside info, and abusing modship...

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:23 am
by Jean Gregoire Gabriel
This suggestion is absurd. Mods are picked to serve the forums fairly and responsibly. Mods should leave ingame personas and interests at the door when carrying out their duties. If they are not doing so then the solution is to punish the wrong-doers, not bring in a host of people with a variety of biases.


J.G.G.

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:43 am
by Bazsy
I will ask the ppl to post what happened here... If he want he will post the whole story...

For the topic starter: its not a good idea to have 50mods, its even a bad idea to have top10, cause its changing, and u cant change mods....

But it could be a good idea, to have someone outside the game to check the mods, and the complaints about them, and if they find out that one of the mods using inside info, or such things. delete them from the mods, or if the cheat is so big, even ostracize... this could solve the issues about are or arent the mods usin inside info or such things.