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SET PRICE PPT

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:36 am
by Weirdy
With the market rates rocketing, its become almost impossible for my officers to buy PPT, i'm sure this is the case for many other players in the game, except those with a big enough income to make it worth while.

My suggestion is to have a set price PPT rather than base it on flexible market rates for all goods.

The other option would be to base it on a players income, however this would probally just result in higher earners to buy market goods from other players.

Re: SET PRICE PPT

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:41 am
by #?#
whos_this wrote:With the market rates rocketing, its become almost impossible for my officers to buy PPT, i'm sure this is the case for many other players in the game, except those with a big enough income to make it worth while.

My suggestion is to have a set price PPT rather than base it on flexible market rates for all goods.

The other option would be to base it on a players income, however this would probally just result in higher earners to buy market goods from other players.


PPT is supposed to be something very costly.. I think it's quite good as it is, maybe a tid bit high but still, shouldn't be scaled down at a fixed price because then A) lower income players would be able to buy it, however, B) Large income people would be able to buy it even more often & ultimately those who'd want would be able to spend most of their time on PPT for a reduced cost.
And about basing it on income, people would just untrain miners, get income as down as possible to reduce costs then trian them back in when they bought..

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:44 am
by seemy4kass
i believe that evryone one should be able to get at least one PPT, even if it is just to cover a weekend away, but at the current cost thats just not possible

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:22 am
by #?#
seemy4kass wrote:i believe that evryone one should be able to get at least one PPT, even if it is just to cover a weekend away, but at the current cost thats just not possible


Well you almost get a free one when you buy MSS, which was, and think still is, at a low cost. It's possible to get PPT with current prices, you just need to work for it..

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:57 am
by Munchy
I never used ppt's when I was smaller..and I actually found it odd when people used them to gain like a 2-3 bil profit over the course of the 2 days they had it (because even then the costed about 3 bil, instead of todays 6 bil).

I understand the idea of protection on the rare occasion, but in those cases you may have to just sacrifice a few uu's if you don't have the income to cover it.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:11 am
by urogard
Munchy wrote:I never used ppt's when I was smaller..and I actually found it odd when people used them to gain like a 2-3 bil profit over the course of the 2 days they had it (because even then the costed about 3 bil, instead of todays 6 bil).

I understand the idea of protection on the rare occasion, but in those cases you may have to just sacrifice a few uu's if you don't have the income to cover it.

or the amount of at's needed has decreased. anyways, just as before (2-5 months ago) you rather use the at's or uu's to get pure naq, get ppt and you're still over with some naq. means no problem for anyone. except for the people who are too small to buy it when it costed 4 bil or 6 bil.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:09 pm
by Ston
how about 40% of your daily income..

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:36 pm
by Inferno™
How about 100% of your daily income.....

PPT wasnt ment to be used all day every week, just sorta happened. Ok its usefull if you get massed, or need to go away, but for going away there i always vacation mode and getting massed.. well you can always mass bk i guess.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:22 pm
by Munchy
What about those that don't feel like buying ppts with naq?

Leave it how it is..it is just fine and is part of the evolution of the game. So someone who has been playing for only a short period of time can't effectively use a ppt to boost their resources. When I started a few months ago I saw ppts as useless because of that fact.

If you do need the ppt for protection(which why would you if you were a noob? You shouldn't have that many enemys...) then you can always trade with uu's instead. If your income is that low though and you need the ppt to make some naq you are probably better off trading the uu's in for naq on the market. After all, that is what it was designed for.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:30 pm
by J.S.
Do away witht he damn thing altogether.. its so bloody annoying seeing all these guys in the top 1000 and all of em with more then a billion naq are on PPT...

I propose one of the following

1. Abolish PPT's except for those on Vac mode only, still no changes to your account just the knowledge that you will still have an account in the morning

2. Have it set at 500 million for people with MSS, they cant possibly afford 6 billion unless they have a heck of a CO like me paying for it..

3. If someone is on PPT limit it to once a week and seperate it form the market trades.. Unless they pay for it then allow them to go on continuas PPT (even if they are wussies for going on continuas PPT)

4. Have a rule where everyone inside the top 1000 (OR G&R places) cannot go on PPT.. That way you have to decide whats more important being protected which you should obviously be able to accomplish since your in the top 1000 or ascension with power and stuff... You can still go on vacation mode though..

5. Let Jenny decide who should go and who should not go on PPT, as in She will be put in charge of assigning ppts. You will have to apply for PPT and have it passed by a council headed by Jenny where there are 10 people including herself and her vote is double :D Seriously though have it so people have to apply for PPT and it takes 24 hours, that way you wont have these wimps massing and sabbing you and hiding on PPT.. God those guys annoy me

6. If both people are set to war the PPT becomes null and void, that way if someone does attack/mass/sabb you and hides on PPT you can set them to war and mass them back...

Opinions on these please?

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:13 pm
by Munchy
1. It has been said time and time again ppts are part of the game, why change it? :?

2. Good idea actually. Please do this one if any. It solves the whole 'noobs can't afford them' thing..because, well, they can't right now, but with this they could. :P

3. 1 per week, 2 per week..who cares. If you want to mass the person you have atleast 3 days to do it at any rate.(Unless they use vacation mode and are truly wimps...)

4. Good idea..but rank doesn't really mean much. And if you were on ppt and then jumped into the top 1000 would the ppt become void? Otherwise you would see jumps and drops in ranks. It might make ascending more difficult though(probably a good thing).

5. Um, are you crazy? There are probably a thousand ppts per week, and who would those 10 people be? They better be half-machine because they won't have time to sleep..or eat..or anything else for that matter.

6. Excellent idea, but I doubt it will be implemented.

3/6, not bad for this section of the forum :-D

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:40 am
by drakul
respectivly speaking PPT's arnt any more expencive now then they were before (incomes have grown and the cost of PPT's have grown)....If a new player needs to use PPT's and dont have the income to buy it, dont have the UP yet to make it afordable, and dont have a comander who will just give them the Naq for it there is always the option of farming/raiding to get the naq/UU required to go on PPT.....

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:52 am
by Inferno™
Munchy wrote:1. It has been said time and time again ppts are part of the game, why change it? :?


They havent always been... not for the first 8 or so months.

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:20 am
by Neimenljivi
ppt's are a part of this game so why should we change it?it's easier today to get PPT for noobs than it was year ago cause they can attack 20 ppl and get enough naq for PPT. PPT is supposed not to be cheap cause you get protection for massing & sabbing, protection for raiding & farming and u can made some naq from it. if noobs can't afford it then they don't need to be on PPT cause they wouldn't gain nothing(no1 won't mass noob).for those of us who have big enough income, we need naq which we get from PPT so it would be pointless that u must pay 40% of ur income/day.leave it as it is.

regards

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:12 am
by J.S.
ppt's are a part of this game so why should we change it?it's easier today to get PPT for noobs than it was year ago cause they can attack 20 ppl and get enough naq for PPT. PPT is supposed not to be cheap cause you get protection for massing & sabbing, protection for raiding & farming and u can made some naq from it. if noobs can't afford it then they don't need to be on PPT cause they wouldn't gain nothing(no1 won't mass noob).for those of us who have big enough income, we need naq which we get from PPT so it would be pointless that u must pay 40% of ur income/day.leave it as it is.


Not true I remember when I was a n00b (year ago soon) and I tried to get 100 million for my next spy level anytime I got over 50 million I was hit.. Its even harder now for n00bs because you cant hit as much as you used to be able to...

The whole point of PPT in the series is to protect planets who cant protect themselves.. And it is given for FREE to those who cant protect themselves..

And come off it for a noob to raise enough naq to go on ppt they would need to hit 60 People with 100 million out... Not gonna happen cos if you saw a noob with 2 or 3 billion out and you see him rising by 100 million every few seconds what are you going to do??

Same here Noobs can't protect themselves against being farmed or hit...

The system needs to be changed, the only time I use PPT is when I have to go into hospital or something like that.. PPT's should not be used by large players to benefit themselves... Because that is not fair...

4. Good idea..but rank doesn't really mean much. And if you were on ppt and then jumped into the top 1000 would the ppt become void? Otherwise you would see jumps and drops in ranks. It might make ascending more difficult though(probably a good thing).



Ascension should be the hardest thing you should do in this game.. Your PPT wont become null and void because you went on PPT while below the G&R rate, you just wont get any points while on PPT... I mean its like if I said

"What did you do to earn your GLORY & REPUTITION points?"

ANSWER: Ah you know Jamie I was on Planet Protection for 3 months solid.. It was fun I didn't attack anyone I didn;t mass anyone... I deserve all the glory I have don't I

Em No... People with the ability to be in the G&R points should not be allowed on PPT...

5. Um, are you crazy?


Ask anyone who talks to me on MSN including yourself.. lol :lol: This wasn't a really you must do it suggestion just an Idea but maybe you should have to apply for PPT.. So you pay for it but your not on PPT for another 24 hours.. And then your on PPT for 48 hours then...

6. Excellent idea, but I doubt it will be implemented.


It should be that way the person has at least 24 hours to exact revenge on someone... How many times have you been farmed, sabbed massed and when you go to hit the guy back you see

{Temporarily on the Protected Planets Treaty...}

So you go to leave it for 2 days and you come back and you see the guy hit you again... I was hit by 3 different people time & time again during the CF war and when I went to attack them back I hit them once and they went on PPT.. What wimps are they... And they were in the top 100 players... If you can defend youself you should not be allowed go on PPT... You dont see the Asgard in the series going oh please fdont attack us cos we cant defend ourselves...

The system needs to be changed... It is not fair on newer players and when they see that they cant do anything to protect themselves they will stop playing and thats bad for the game... Becuase out of the 20 plus people I got started playing this game only 1 of them still plays..