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The Game Guide

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:36 am
by Mystake
Can it be re-written?


It's written really poorly. Whoever wrote it put way too little time into it.

In the guide it says miners AND lifers make u more naq

in actuallity that's not true, sow hy does it say it? more stuff like that is therte to confuse the newbs so that they dont' play the game properly.

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:48 am
by Wolf359
The game creator wrote the guide - and as he himself states - some bits may be out of date.

And how do you figure that miners AND lifers don't get you more naq? Or are we just arguing semantics here? Lifers are actually miners.

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:26 pm
by Lord Ho Chi Man
It looks to me like He is volunteering to write a new one. Sorry I know this is Spam.

Re: The Game Guide

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:46 pm
by Inferno™
Mystake wrote:In the guide it says miners AND lifers make u more naq

in actuallity that's not true, sow hy does it say it? more stuff like that is therte to confuse the newbs so that they dont' play the game properly.


Miners and lifers make naq.. I dont see any point though, since a noob like you chose not to read it properly and dont know how the play the game properly :-D

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:30 pm
by Mystake
lifers simply restrict your ability to untrain your miners when you ascend.


try it


untrain as many miners as u can

train them again and see how much ur naq per turn goes up.

do it, please, do, then come back and call me a dumbass when you got the right facts.

I know I'm not advanced enough to write a guide that's why I'm upset that it wasn't written properly (or alteast updated!!!)

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:33 pm
by Saber
The guide is not stating that lifers make more then miners. It is saying that miners and lifers make more naq then regular untrained uu.

Miners/Lifers = 80 naq/turn
UU = 20 naq/turn

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:36 pm
by JIX
Mystake wrote:lifers simply restrict your ability to untrain your miners when you ascend.


try it


untrain as many miners as u can

train them again and see how much ur naq per turn goes up.

do it, please, do, then come back and call me a dumbass when you got the right facts.

I know I'm not advanced enough to write a guide that's why I'm upset that it wasn't written properly (or alteast updated!!!)
saber beat me :roll:

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:15 pm
by Geoff
Mystake wrote:lifers simply restrict your ability to untrain your miners when you ascend.


try it


untrain as many miners as u can

train them again and see how much ur naq per turn goes up.

do it, please, do, then come back and call me a dumbass when you got the right facts.

I know I'm not advanced enough to write a guide that's why I'm upset that it wasn't written properly (or alteast updated!!!)

Mystake I think you should follow your own advice, if you untrain all your miners and then train them up again, you should indeed be earning the exast same amount of naq, also check how much you are earning AFTER you untrain them, you will find that you are earning less... therefore miners and lifers DO earn more naq (saber wrote the simpler version)

Also it is worth noting that when you ascend you KEEP your miners, they don't count towards your ascension, and you don't lose them (you used to), therefore it is not a restriction as such, but actually makes life that little bit easier, and cheaper as you don't have to spend naq to retrain them!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:12 am
by Wolf359
Mystake - listen to these people - they know what they are talking about - lifers ARE miners that are untrainable, resigned to an eternity in the mines.

The number of miners shown on your game pages = the number of lifers + the number of untrainable miners. And if you untrain those untrainable miners you will see that your naq production will go down.

If you then retrain them all, your naq production will go up to what it was before you did the first untrain - it will not go higher because it is not meant to - you still have exactly the same amount of miners that you had before, only now more of them are lifers and less of them are untrainable.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:13 pm
by Mystake
The wording of the guide led me to understand that miners made money just like lifers do, however lifer's don't.


[quote=Triple H]

Miners and lifers make naq.. I dont see any point though, since a noob like you chose not to read it properly and dont know how the play the game properly
[/quote]

Who's the dumbass now? Lifers make naq eh? Looks like you can't play the game either.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:37 pm
by Wolf359
Mystake wrote:The wording of the guide led me to understand that miners made money just like lifers do, however lifer's don't.


Triple H wrote:
Miners and lifers make naq.. I dont see any point though, since a noob like you chose not to read it properly and dont know how the play the game properly


Who's the dumbass now? Lifers make naq eh? Looks like you can't play the game either.


Okay - consider yourself formally warned for personally insulting someone.

Lifers DO make naq

Lifers ARE miners

Lifers make the SAME AMOUNT of naq as miners.

When you see this on your screen:

Miners(Lifers) 1,000,000 (500,000) - it is telling you that you have 1 million miners - 500k of which are lifers and 500k are untrainable. It is NOT telling you that you have 1 million miners AND 500k lifers.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:36 pm
by [BERSERKER]
I think the point of this got killed in the poor example :D

It should be re-written a little better in my opinion. When I first read it I was confused.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:17 pm
by grimgor
Lifers DO make naq

Lifers ARE miners

Lifers make the SAME AMOUNT of naq as miners.

When you see this on your screen:

Miners(Lifers) 1,000,000 (500,000) - it is telling you that you have 1 million miners - 500k of which are lifers and 500k are untrainable. It is NOT telling you that you have 1 million miners AND 500k lifers.


maybe to make it easyer for newbies or people that cant count it show you the amount of miners and then the amount of lifters

eg Miners(Lifers) 1,000,000 (500,000)

would look like

Miners(Lifers) 500,000 (500,000)

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:19 pm
by #?#
grimgor wrote:
Okay - consider yourself formally warned for personally insulting someone.

Lifers DO make naq

Lifers ARE miners

Lifers make the SAME AMOUNT of naq as miners.

When you see this on your screen:

Miners(Lifers) 1,000,000 (500,000) - it is telling you that you have 1 million miners - 500k of which are lifers and 500k are untrainable. It is NOT telling you that you have 1 million miners AND 500k lifers.


maybe to make it easyer for newbies or people that cant count it show you the amount of miners and then the amount of lifters

eg Miners(Lifers) 1,000,000 (500,000)

would look like

Miners(Lifers) 500,000 (500,000)


..or teach them how the current way of showing it works xD

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:27 pm
by raistlin majere
Emma Thurman wrote:..or teach them how the current way of showing it works xD


Hahaha XD very true