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Dear Forum,

Since you screwed the pooch on the whole descension thing by listening to the whiners who "play" ascension merely for the main bonuses, I think an update is in order to reward those of us who, by dint of hard work and careful planning in ascension, have forged strong accounts, without negatively impacting weaker accounts. I propose a bonus percentage added to your main account based on the following formula: 30 minus rank. Thus the top 29 people (pretty much the first page plus one) will get a bonus percentage added to their main account in addition to the bonus for ascending. So the number one ranked person gets 29% plus his ascended bonus, the number two person gets 28% added to his bonus, number 3 27% and so on and so forth.

This does not unduly unbalance the main server, any more than it is already unbalanced and gives those of us who play ascension properly an incentive for playing properly. And then perhaps it will give other people who played the ascension server merely for the main bonuses a reason to perhaps play ascension a little more fervently.

Now I am proposing this as either an addition to descension or perhaps an alternative to descension. I mean, the whiners can't complain because their accounts aren't being negatively affected and you can reward those of us who have taken your words to heart and played the ascension server because we wanted new challenges with great risks and great rewards. Well this can be our great reward for taking the great risk of NOT quick ascending and suffering abuse at the hands of those who did.

i like this suggestion very much. it is fair - those who dont want to play ascencion dont lose anything, and those that do play it, and put enough work into it are rewarded. i believe it is in a way "best of both worlds", especially if descencion isnt coming out

I dont know about 30% additions, thats kinda a huge amount, and hey not saying this cause im jealous, Im rank 5, 25% bonus to my stats would be nice and lol, but yea, a little too much.

However, in principle, I absolutely agree - as far as I'm aware, the bonuses in main were originally intended to be a reward for playing ascension... apparently too much **%&#* #%& #%^* #%^ complain that they just ascended to get those bonuses and now don't play, and its OUR fault for somehow leading them to believe that when you gain access to a new secret server, youre actually supposed to play it. WHOD HAVE THUNK IT???

Anyway, that mini-rant over, yea, if the whole point of the original bonuses is now essentially wiped out, we do need something new...

I believe compmage might have mentioned this to me a few months ago, but how about a few slightly lighter tie-ins between the server? Something to the effect of charisma affecting main UP as well as ascended UP (maybe not as much, reduce it a little bit, otherwise too many losers will whine all freakin day) - but yea, the more charismatic you are as a God, the more people want to come over to your cause, right? Just throwing a thought out there, but yea, a small bonus would be nice.

~Chunky

top 30 is tough, and as such would be worthy goal for those bonuses, they are a bit much. maybe we could reduce it some... how bout this:

a certain percentage of (top 1-2%) people in ascension get say... an additional 5% bonus to main.

i'd personally agree with the original idea. sure, some might think it's unbalanced, and i won't be able to reach such lofty heights myself. but honestly, the bonuses we were supposed to get as an extra bonus for ascending, has now lost pretty much all meaning.

but think of it this way, you want to take out someone's bonus, you just start playing and knock them down
sure you risk descension, but ascension is all about risk.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Yea, I mean I have put hours of time into this game on the assumption it would matter. I feel descension in it's current context is a slap on the wrist, especially considering you can stay on vacation mode.

Frankly, I don't see it as excessive. With the cap on total army size being 100 million units, having the extra percentages could prove invaluable in the long run. Yes, it will give those who played ascension well a significant boost in main. And seeing as that is all the ascension server is now, a conduit for main power, I don't see the problem with taking it to the nth degree and rewarding the top players in ascension with main power. I am not asking anyone else to be made weaker in main (or ascension, for that matter). All I am asking for is a little reward somewhere along the line because some of us took great risk in slowly and surely building our ascension accounts instead of trying to grab a lot of power quickly. We are still waiting on the great rewards and they have yet to come in. Implementing this suggestion will FINALLY give us something to cheer about.

gr8 idea, will probably limited but yea nice! .

Interesting concept I must say, I am not sure how the % would all be be worked out but I would agree that if something were done it would have to XX amount ranked and not a top % of people as in main the % has seem to have diminished the that actual glory of G & R.

While I can't fully comment on a sound proof system or concept. This does sound very interesting to increase the activity and prestige of ascension.

Shooting Star wrote:Dear Forum,

Since you screwed the pooch on the whole descension thing by listening to the whiners who "play" ascension merely for the main bonuses, I think an update is in order to reward those of us who, by dint of hard work and careful planning in ascension, have forged strong accounts, without negatively impacting weaker accounts. I propose a bonus percentage added to your main account based on the following formula: 30 minus rank. Thus the top 29 people (pretty much the first page plus one) will get a bonus percentage added to their main account in addition to the bonus for ascending. So the number one ranked person gets 29% plus his ascended bonus, the number two person gets 28% added to his bonus, number 3 27% and so on and so forth.

This does not unduly unbalance the main server, any more than it is already unbalanced and gives those of us who play ascension properly an incentive for playing properly. And then perhaps it will give other people who played the ascension server merely for the main bonuses a reason to perhaps play ascension a little more fervently.

Now I am proposing this as either an addition to descension or perhaps an alternative to descension. I mean, the whiners can't complain because their accounts aren't being negatively affected and you can reward those of us who have taken your words to heart and played the ascension server because we wanted new challenges with great risks and great rewards. Well this can be our great reward for taking the great risk of NOT quick ascending and suffering abuse at the hands of those who did.

Well, let's but it this way, at the moment there in no way someone can ascend from out side and catch General Lucky, they might be able to get more life points, and a stronger personal attack. They won't be getting a higher UP, ( barring everyone all ready in/ near him) Sorry for picking on you general,

I'am thinking more of your idea, but in a little different ways,

What if instead the top 50 on the main server recieved a bonus on ascendsion. Say 25% increase to planet productiion.

high empty wrote:I'am thinking more of your idea, but in a little different ways,

What if instead the top 50 on the main server recieved a bonus on ascendsion. Say 25% increase to planet productiion.

How does that promote playing on ascension? And same thing goes for main, someone starting out now will never catch KGC on page 1...

chunkysoup wrote:

high empty wrote:I'am thinking more of your idea, but in a little different ways,

What if instead the top 50 on the main server recieved a bonus on ascendsion. Say 25% increase to planet productiion.

How does that promote playing on ascension? And same thing goes for main, someone starting out now will never catch KGC on page 1...

They'll defiantely be farmed by hin though.

Instead of basing it on rank, why not base it on influence? Rank in ascended is kind of forced down because of the rank modifier(albet, it's been lessened, but it's still there). So instead, base it upon influence. Seems more logical to me...

Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:

chunkysoup wrote:

high empty wrote:I'am thinking more of your idea, but in a little different ways,

What if instead the top 50 on the main server recieved a bonus on ascendsion. Say 25% increase to planet productiion.

How does that promote playing on ascension? And same thing goes for main, someone starting out now will never catch KGC on page 1...

They'll defiantely be farmed by hin though.

Instead of basing it on rank, why not base it on influence? Rank in ascended is kind of forced down because of the rank modifier(albet, it's been lessened, but it's still there). So instead, base it upon influence. Seems more logical to me...

Well your quite right influence, would be the key,

As for promoting playing on ascension. Well think about it. If you got into the top 50 in your ascension account. Then you get a bonus on your main account. The bonus is on your main account NOT Your ascended account.

chunkysoup wrote:

high empty wrote:I'am thinking more of your idea, but in a little different ways,

What if instead the top 50 on the main server recieved a bonus on ascendsion. Say 25% increase to planet productiion.

How does that promote playing on ascension? And same thing goes for main, someone starting out now will never catch KGC on page 1...

But there is a large difference between the servers. In main how 'powerful' you are depends not only on how long you have played, but how much work you have put into it, and by doing extra work you can often make up for not playing as long.

On ascention, there is limited growth because of there not being a market. You are stricktly limited to the amount of at's you get per day in how much you can grow/catch up to others.

high empty wrote:

Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:

chunkysoup wrote:

high empty wrote:I'am thinking more of your idea, but in a little different ways,

What if instead the top 50 on the main server recieved a bonus on ascendsion. Say 25% increase to planet productiion.

How does that promote playing on ascension? And same thing goes for main, someone starting out now will never catch KGC on page 1...

They'll defiantely be farmed by hin though.

Instead of basing it on rank, why not base it on influence? Rank in ascended is kind of forced down because of the rank modifier(albet, it's been lessened, but it's still there). So instead, base it upon influence. Seems more logical to me...

Well your quite right influence, would be the key,

As for promoting playing on ascension. Well think about it. If you got into the top 50 in your ascension account. Then you get a bonus on your main account. The bonus is on your main account NOT Your ascended account.

That's the point... To bonus your main account to promote playing ascended.