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Newbie question from.........me
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:40 pm
by pianomutt20000
Are fleets worth the same as def/attack weps for mothership strength?
Your thoughts are welcome,
Bill
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:46 pm
by SVaRuN
Check your MS piano....fleets cost a lot more ...
And their purpose is utterly different
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:59 pm
by pianomutt20000
SVaRuN wrote:Check your MS piano....fleets cost a lot more ...
And their purpose is utterly different
I am talking score wise....and they are no longer more expensive.....
large ship. lol
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:29 pm
by SVaRuN
Hehe thats a totally different story I ll let someone else to anwser this...I am not a planet thief or...have lots of planets so wouldnt know about that
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:30 pm
by Puck
They don't seem to cost any different, Bill....?
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:32 pm
by pianomutt20000
Puck wrote:They don't seem to cost any different, Bill....?
one upgrade slot for my def is 100mil.
then i have to buy the shield.
one fleet spot is 20mil
and i have to buy the ship
I want to know if the change in my score for mothership, is equal for fleets/ traditional def/attack
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:35 pm
by Danakor
not sure if I got all the math right but it looks like a regular weapon adds 1,950,400 atk, while a fleet only adds 57,600.
not sure about all the math but you should be able to figure it out by:
[Total Atk - (fleet strength * number of fleets)] / number of regular weapons
That should work right. if someone else could do the math and see if they come up with the same thing(yes I am ascended)
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:51 pm
by Reeb
Fleets add very little to the overall stats. Don't forget that you also have to repair fleets everytime you attack somebody like you do normal attack weapons. It adds up pretty fast, so I'd say don't bother unless you need to mass / take a planet.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:10 am
by cobra1
yeah seems to me like fleets don't contribute a lot to your score. for me def adds much more. maybe cause i'm asgard. not sure if the race bonus applies to ms too.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:49 am
by Finarfin
A thing to note: Ascended fleets are far stronger.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:43 am
by bryan
by some calcs i did a looong time ago, you needed around 5k def weaps before fleets became cost effective. even then it wasnt much
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:09 am
by pianomutt20000
bryan wrote:by some calcs i did a looong time ago, you needed around 5k def weaps before fleets became cost effective. even then it wasnt much
I have 8.3k
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:53 am
by RobinInDaHood
pianomutt20000 wrote:
one fleet spot is 20mil
and i have to buy the ship
I want to know if the change in my score for mothership, is equal for fleets/ traditional def/attack
My next fleet capacity upgrade is 170 million.
As far as I can tell, the fleets don't add anything to your mothership score and/or rank. I can have lots of fleets and even after the rank calculation on the turn, it never changes.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:12 am
by Mujo
each fleet adds 10x its strength to fleet strength i believe.
ie, if the strength of the fleet is 57600 it will add 576,000 per fleet i believe.
i believe it also adds with the normal ms strength, thus helping with MS rank.
attack and def weapons bring i think 1,99 mil and 2,99 mil a piece, respectively
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:47 am
by bryan
they do add, and it was not many. ms calcs of this sort are very messy, and it is usually easier just to excel it, and use graphs. i think you would be somewhere around 100. ie it is seriously nothing required at all