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I fail to see the logic in how new players are supposed to develop in this game if they can constantly can (and do) get raided by various people (who are powerful already) and sometimes even get massed in the process.

I think it should be limited to raid people (by rank?) and it should be removed that you can raid income planets.

you basically got 2 major alliances controlling the server. Those people are powerfull already by haiving been around for so long and therefore had the time to develop. But htey are also going around massraiding the weaker players leeching power off them and getting more powerful.


EDIT: It seems that most people think that raiding works like in main, that you can only steal undeveloped planets and that income planets are unraidable.

It's not TRUE. If someone raids you they steal your undeveloped as well as your income planets.

I find ur fine as long as u develope ur planets immedietly

Zkioussis wrote:I find ur fine as long as u develope ur planets immedietly

it doesnt make a difference because you can even steal the income planets.

did you never raid/get raided?

well, as a matter of fact i think its like in main:
first off your defense is important, the more you got, the less likely you will get attacked -same applies for cover power.

next is the latter of power:
of course the weaker guys will be targeted by stronger ones (otherwayround wont make much sense) BUT there is a certain point when raiding isnt very efficant for the bigger guy. to keep it short, i wont waste 15 of the limited AT for 1 turn explore rate. so, sooner or later they will switch raid target and you will be ignored and can grow and raid weaker players. (well you can already do that now)

last but not least: as said, try to covert all your planets asap, leaving them as undeveloped planets is just a waste of dmu or stats!

Ston wrote:well, as a matter of fact i think its like in main:
first off your defense is important, the more you got, the less likely you will get attacked -same applies for cover power.

no it isn't. because if you have to have a heck of a high defence for it not to get massed away and get raided.

I had situations where people had to attack me a few times in order to lower my def so that their attacks get through. Or that they lost ALOT assasin planets just to kill my def planets off and then raid me.

and i modified my post.
I added the part that most people are seemingly unaware of.
You CAN raid UNDEVELOPED AND INCOME planets

Thats the risk with ascension. Theres nothing to hide, its a true test of skill manging to keep a well balanced account while your growth expands with every ascension and every day that passes. If you cant get to grips with it then i see no hope.

Corkscrew wrote:Thats the risk with ascension. Theres nothing to hide, its a true test of skill manging to keep a well balanced account while your growth expands with every ascension and every day that passes. If you cant get to grips with it then i see no hope.

interestingly enough there are still alliances

I'd like to see the skill that one still needs if one already has the strongest accounts in the game and no one dares retaliating for fear of annihilation.

Corkscrew wrote:Thats the risk with ascension. Theres nothing to hide, its a true test of skill manging to keep a well balanced account while your growth expands with every ascension and every day that passes. If you cant get to grips with it then i see no hope.

wut he says is true


i have been playing it for awhile now and i have had a high covert and i have had like35kUP and 20k income planets and no one has been raiding me

but they have been attacking me for NAQ(wont say but one of my friend were farming me lol for like a month i think)

so its a matter of skill and tactics that u use

Ravenger wrote: i have been playing it for awhile now and i have had a high covert and i have had like35kUP and 20k income planets and no one has been raiding me

no offence mate but 20k income planets is extremely low. You did not get raided because you weren't worth raiding
you know the large players have a few mil of them if not tens of milions.


This system merely encourages the strong to become stronger and the weak to stay weak without any chances for retaliation

urogard wrote:

Ravenger wrote: i have been playing it for awhile now and i have had a high covert and i have had like35kUP and 20k income planets and no one has been raiding me

no offence mate but 20k income planets is extremely low. You did not get raided because you weren't worth raiding
you know the large players have a few mil of them if not tens of milions.


This system merely encourages the strong to become stronger and the weak to stay weak without any chances for retaliation

well actuly i just got raided yesterday and total men they stole from me was 50k lol

Ravenger wrote:

urogard wrote:

Ravenger wrote: i have been playing it for awhile now and i have had a high covert and i have had like35kUP and 20k income planets and no one has been raiding me

no offence mate but 20k income planets is extremely low. You did not get raided because you weren't worth raiding
you know the large players have a few mil of them if not tens of milions.


This system merely encourages the strong to become stronger and the weak to stay weak without any chances for retaliation

well actuly i just got raided yesterday and total men they stole from me was 50k lol

well for me is 50k not the end of the world but it's a considerable amount of my army. and i would like to see this limited. either in the form of lower percentage stolen or limited overall

Speaking as one of the "bigger guys", I must say that I don't raid the smaller guys that much. It simply isn't worth it to do so. Firstly, to raid someone to the point of extinction is hardly tactical. You raid enough to make it worth your while but so that they can come back so you can raid them again. If you are just starting out in ascension, I recommend coming in with a whole lot of APP the first time and hitting the ground running. Yes, you are going to be raided for a bit but it is not insurmountable by any means. Unlike in main, turns are a precious commodity in ascension and are highly prized. Only great fools would waste them on small targets. If you wish to IM me, my MSN is mailto:master_thespian@hotmail.com. I am Mojo Rising in main and ascension. If you ever have any questions or problems, feel free to contact me. I can probably offer you some advice.

Just keep building def while u get income...Yes i have been raided and yes it sucks the key is making raiding to u too expensive to be worth it...no one will ever catch up to the best players unless they quit its the type of game this is...just keep going and dont live a lot out if u cant defend its not like they will hit someone when someone else who is easier to hit will give the same prize

well, i don't like to dominate completely, so, i have a couple raid targets, whom i'll hit only when i hit the turn cap.

i also KNOW they're inactive, so it's fairly safe for newbies. but that is me...

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

how about making there a rank limit like in main.