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Deascension

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:12 pm
by SVaRuN
Talked to a mate and thought of this one...
While many are "afraid of deascension" some wonder other anticipating this idea wont be likeable by the strongest who probably wanted to keep everybody down...from ascended server...(joking)

So the idea:
Deascension can only be executed by guys at least 100% stronger then you.
The executioner losses 30% of everything he has.

Now let us check it thoroughly:

-100% stronger:
+in army size(planet size)

- 30% of everything he has
30% of his planets are eliminated
30% of mass invaders, 30% of mass defenders, 30% of income planets...30 percent in every planet field (as the descended one also losses up to 30% of the bonuses ...from here if he was only 4 times ascended then they both should lose 20%...)

Why this harsh conditions....well we have heard the idea being deascended for 3 month or smth like that...well that is long time to be without 30% bonus in main also some players in main want to make it harder to hurt the smaller players...well with this hurting them would end up being much more risky :D )
Then also in the sg-saga we can see deascension is only done when there is some large violation of the ascended rules...well...in this way the amount of deascended wouldnt be so big...and only those that really made smth their opponent think is utterly bugging them...would be deascended...
Why 100% stronger rule...well so not everyone would be able to deascend you...and about the question what about the strongest one in ascension (well mass him as long as their is not someone 100% then him LoL he is the strongest he should be harder to deascend dont you think)
Why 30% limit...so there wouldnt be any bullying...at least not for nth and at least not without a consequences...

An example of the process:

You are supposingly rank 200 in ascension (by influence) You have a total of 500k planets and some group of ppl (alliance) wants to deascend you...well they mass you etc you go down to 300k planets after the massing...and the only one who can deascend you is a 100% bigger player you a 600k + guy...and even so he deascends you...you go down from ascended server...and he ends up with 180k of planets less..

Good things about it:

Well ppl would start playing ascension more...most of them dont play as they say whats the use ppl are 100x stronger then me i ll be deascended anyway even if i build up...wel in this case more that you build up...more expensive for someone to mass you...and equals =bigger protection from deascension as bigger you become more they ll think about deascending you
Also a good thing would be implementing so called HARD to do thing in sgw...lots of strategy...involved in deascension...we all know there is max of 2000 ats...so you think how you ll spend them and that is a strategy...as well this deascension would mean exactly the same.

Well it is only an idea and for admin to decide for you to diss it or support it.
To sum up:
+ for big players they will hardly be deascended
- for big players they wont deascend as easily as they thought they will

+ for smaller players they can build more safely...and with knowing more they build the better
- for smaller players...i dont see it :D

P.S. (as these could be breached by alliance just massing a person...and then putting one guy in the end to finish the deascension...there could be smth changed...all involved in attacking or sabbing this person deascended within 6 hours or so....would lose 5-10% of their power...now...will there be any 10 to one after this :lol: I dont think so I even support this idea more...as it is more ---You wont get pass the original thought ...that is

TO DEASCEND IS COSTLY AND NOT A COMMON THING

Best Regards: SVARUN

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:33 pm
by Shooting Star
A ridiculous idea! Say I have 6 million planets and I decide I want to descend someone. In your scenario, I would lose 1.8 million planets in order to descend someone. That's insane. Yes, I agree that it should be DIFFICULT to descend someone, but pardon me if I didn't quick ascend and actually built my account in ascension to be the biggest and strongest. Why should I be penalized for that? I already suffered the penalties for that in main, when I was a prior and a prophet amongst all the LG+1's who decided to quick ascend. Just because you didn't have the foresight to build your ascension account up, don't try to penalize others who have. I really don't know why more people didn't realize that descension was a possibiity. When the server first opened, there was always the eventuality that descension was coming. I was aware of it from the VERY beginning. I think people just forgot and/or got blinded by the bonuses in main.

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:28 am
by Bad Wolf
You are only lose your main bonus for 1 month I belive, and 1 month isnt alot to lose for some people, considering how much effort and resources the deascender would need to spend on you.

BW

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:10 am
by SVaRuN
Shooting Star wrote:A ridiculous idea! Say I have 6 million planets and I decide I want to descend someone. In your scenario, I would lose 1.8 million planets in order to descend someone. That's insane. Yes, I agree that it should be DIFFICULT to descend someone, but pardon me if I didn't quick ascend and actually built my account in ascension to be the biggest and strongest. Why should I be penalized for that? I already suffered the penalties for that in main, when I was a prior and a prophet amongst all the LG+1's who decided to quick ascend. Just because you didn't have the foresight to build your ascension account up, don't try to penalize others who have. I really don't know why more people didn't realize that descension was a possibiity. When the server first opened, there was always the eventuality that descension was coming. I was aware of it from the VERY beginning. I think people just forgot and/or got blinded by the bonuses in main.


Hehe...well if you are not one of the best...goody...you would hardly deascend someone and as you figured it out...it would be quite costly...well for bigger ppl from your self to deascend you..they would lose even more

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:37 pm
by Saber
I would say no to this since that would mean that anybody at the top of ascention has no chance of being deasended since no one would be 100% stronger then them.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:06 am
by Sleipnir
Saber wrote:I would say no to this since that would mean that anybody at the top of ascention has no chance of being deasended since no one would be 100% stronger then them.


The 100% stronger is a pretty useless factor IMO. Since the rate will obviously go down as someone gets massed long enough. So even the biggest guy can be descended, at a high cost.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:27 pm
by Lore
When will it ever come out?