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Ok, here's the dilemma. Both u.p and army size are important to me, but what should I concentrate on? What is more effective?

I'm planning to spend a long time (i.e many months) building both U.P and army size. However, should I pour all my naq into U.P and raid for more uu? Or use naq for AT, and raid for MUCH more uu (but have a lower U.P)?

I'm planning to amass enough resources to do all 6 ascentions in 1 month towards the end of the year, but I'm kinda stuck as to how exactly to concentrate my resources. Big U.P = lower army size vs low U.P (U.P gives diminishing returns as it rises, AT, while also rising in cost, is much more static in value) .

Assuming my C.O also increases his income, and I also increase mine(assuming the majority of my army size is miners), what's the best scenario?

1. Low level U.P. More focus on raiding.
2. Mid level U.P. Some focus on raiding.
3. High level U.P. Least focus on raiding.

I'm leaning towards option 3, raiding 2k AT a day(which I find very easy to do). I'm an effective raider, so, raiding isn't a problem. Obviously option 3 also uses the least amount of time.

I'm interested to hear your opinions, preferably from all ends of the spectrum (high/low U.P and army sizes). I'd also appreciate input on the use of PPT to aid this goal. Worth it or not? I obviously have full SS and I use the black market frequently.

Note: I don't have any planets, nor do I plan to rely on any. They are a waste of naq IMO, unless you have LOTS to spare, which I don't

Note2: I'm only maintaining a def and covert. I'm an Asgard, so it's not massively expensive to maintain a def. I also have no mothership atm.

Note3: I'm starting afresh with a new account. I'm currently sitting with nearly a 10k U.P and 200k army size after 4 days (thanks to a healthy naq boost from a friend ).

Are you 'Cherry Blossom' ingame ? If so I would raid in your position, If you have free time I would say it is the best bet, as you say you want to re ascned near the end of the year to make you a LG + 1 So there isnt much point in getting a massive UP [ depends how big ] but anyway I would surgest raiding.

BW

I like a nice, big UP. It can't be sabbed away by an enemy, and always comes in handy when you need to rebuild. I'm at 47k raw and 60k total, and I can always find a buyer for them if I need extra Naq for something. Of course, it helps that I have never ascended nor do I want to.

-urban

Cherry Blossom wrote:Ok, here's the dilemma. Both u.p and army size are important to me, but what should I concentrate on? What is more effective?

I'm planning to spend a long time (i.e many months) building both U.P and army size. However, should I pour all my naq into U.P and raid for more uu? Or use naq for AT, and raid for MUCH more uu (but have a lower U.P)?

I'm planning to amass enough resources to do all 6 ascentions in 1 month towards the end of the year, but I'm kinda stuck as to how exactly to concentrate my resources. Big U.P = lower army size vs low U.P (U.P gives diminishing returns as it rises, AT, while also rising in cost, is much more static in value) .

Assuming my C.O also increases his income, and I also increase mine(assuming the majority of my army size is miners), what's the best scenario?

1. Low level U.P. More focus on raiding.
2. Mid level U.P. Some focus on raiding.
3. High level U.P. Least focus on raiding.

I'm leaning towards option 3, raiding 2k AT a day(which I find very easy to do). I'm an effective raider, so, raiding isn't a problem. Obviously option 3 also uses the least amount of time.

I'm interested to hear your opinions, preferably from all ends of the spectrum (high/low U.P and army sizes). I'd also appreciate input on the use of PPT to aid this goal. Worth it or not? I obviously have full SS and I use the black market frequently.

Note: I don't have any planets, nor do I plan to rely on any. They are a waste of naq IMO, unless you have LOTS to spare, which I don't

Note2: I'm only maintaining a def and covert. I'm an Asgard, so it's not massively expensive to maintain a def. I also have no mothership atm.

Note3: I'm starting afresh with a new account. I'm currently sitting with nearly a 10k U.P and 200k army size after 4 days (thanks to a healthy naq boost from a friend ).

Raiding definatly. If youre asgard and its easy to get a defence that means you can protect a large income easily. And a large income comes from a large armysize. And a large armysize comes much more easily from raiding then UP. Plus you probably should ascend aswell and raiding makes paying for ascention easier. If you want my advice raid ALOT and dont increase youre unit production at all.

2-3 months ago I sold all my UU for naq, and spent it all on my UP

I wanted to get it to 50 k raw, and it cost me 2,083,375,000,000 Naquadah, Dont get me wrong I love getting my UP everyday but I think people should have Large UP if they are either finshed ascneding or if you want a really good ascneded account, yeah you would loose alot of UU ascneding with 50 k UP but if you had it for say 2-3 months you would get it back no hassle, also the points you would get from 50 k UP is ALOT.

BW

Well, I'm not overly interested in getting a decent ascention account, main is where I really want to be strong.

I'll be raiding every day no matter what, it's just a question whether to build up my U.P for now, or use the extra naq to raid even more?

I think until my U.P exceeds 20k, or I get 2mill army size or more, it's worth raising my U.P. After that I think it'll be more effective to raid. Not too sure of the exact specifics.

As for ascending, I'm wanting to spend the minimum possible amount while doing it as quickly as possible. I'll probably go for 6 ascentions in one month (or maybe even 10 ascentions total, to get the max out of my main account).

EDIT: My in game is "Cherry Blossom", for anyone who's interested

there is apparently a way to ascend really fast, and on ppt the whole time...

copied this from another thread:

Well, alright then, for the max.
You must start with 1000 g&r's
1-Buy a ppt Friday night, takes you to Sunday night
2-Buy a ppt Sunday night, that takes you to Tuesday night
3-Ascend, and then jump back into 5 G&R range, that ppt takes you to Thursday night
4-Take your first ppt Thursday night, that takes you to Saturday
5-Take another ppt Saturday night, takes you to Monday night.
6-Ascend again Monday night, that ppt takes you to Wednesday night. Jump back into 5 G&R range.
7-On Wednesday night take another ppt to Friday
8-On Friday take a second to Sunday night. Depending on how well you have timed your previous ones you may either be off ppt for a few minutes on Sunday or for a few hours until you can buy another one Monday
9-On Monday morning take a ppt to Wednesday morning.
10-Ascend again Wednesday morning, takes you to Friday morning.
11-Take a ppt Friday morning, takes you to Sunday morning. Depending on When you took your ppt monday will mean how long you be off until you can get another one.

lets see, that is 11 ppts/22 days. I think that is the max before you must be off for atleast 24 hours.

Raiding.

With a bigger army, at a later stage in the game it will be very easy to build a nice UP

^^ I agree with Hells ^^

By raiding more you can build up your army much quicker than you could by increasing UP, and once you have a larger army you have more income which to spend on UP.

Norbe.

What I would advice is get a 10k raw UP and one UP planet for ascending. Then raid non-stop and have a 400-500 limit UU per 15 turns, that would likely help.