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Trade broker can solve problems with the recent update
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:51 pm
by Cobolt
With a three step broker trades can continue without problems and most ppl will be happy..
Step 1 - like today, the part initiating the trade deposit goods and sets the terms, the broker notify the other part.
Step 2 - the other part can now accept and the goods are delivered and the broker stores the payment.
Step 3 - the initiating part logs on, checks the broker and sees that a trade has been accepted and the broker has the payment stored for him to collect.
Today we have a two step structure on the broker, one part puts the goods in the broker and set a term to release the goods, once the other part accept those terms the broker transfers goods and desired resources to both parts. There´s now a large cry trough the SGW community about the problem with bankspace (broker disregarded the bankspace before) and now you MUST be on ppt or sit by you computer when somebody accept a trade and frankly, many of us don´t have that time to spend and then we have the the global timezones..........
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:20 am
by Bazsy
If you dont have the bank capacity to store the bank why do you want an unfair advantage over those who have?
This update was put in for a reason, and that was overbanking. Overbanking is just not fair to those who have bigger banks.
And if you can have the other side set the broker, you can click when you are online and spend the naq or what you get quickly... you also can bank up to your capacity. Whats the problem with that?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:31 am
by Tivadar
well, i agree that if the bank is full or just too smal for the naq, the naq should eitehr go for the initiating player into an otehr kind of bank or something till he gets on and take the naq (well, this "bank" shoudl also expire after 48 hours or sumthing) or the initiating part have to accpet the trade again.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:13 am
by Hells__Angel
Could be abused very easily
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:27 am
by Tivadar
true ... but it would be still limited for 48 hours ...
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:40 am
by Cobolt
Bazsy wrote:If you dont have the bank capacity to store the bank why do you want an unfair advantage over those who have?
This update was put in for a reason, and that was overbanking. Overbanking is just not fair to those who have bigger banks.
And if you can have the other side set the broker, you can click when you are online and spend the naq or what you get quickly... you also can bank up to your capacity. Whats the problem with that?
Now hold your horses here...
9 of 10 trades I´m in the receivning end... (ppl sell to me) so the problem is not my problem but my trade partners.
What I want is ONE thing...
I don´t care about the bankspace, I want to be able to trade whenever.. wich means that I can accept trades whenever I have time to log on... I work for a living, often 16hrs a day and I really don´t have the time to have "online meetings" just to be able to trade without the initiating part risk loosing their resources.
I want the broker to hold resources and deliver on demand - both ways, a TTL (time to live) before the broker keeps the goods is fine by me.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:40 am
by Cobolt
Hells__Angel wrote:Could be abused very easily
The system that is of today can be abused for banking WERY easy and this won´t change much.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:53 am
by Hells__Angel
Valarg wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:Could be abused very easily
The system that is of today can be abused for banking WERY easy and this won´t change much.
Explain
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:13 pm
by Cobolt
Hells__Angel wrote:Valarg wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:Could be abused very easily
The system that is of today can be abused for banking WERY easy and this won´t change much.
Explain
It´s probably well known, but I don´t know if it it would be a good thing to post a "How to eploit" in an open forum.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:24 pm
by dead solid
it should b held on the market untill the person next logs in then it is automatically delivered to them or something that way it isnt out in the open and it cant really be used to bank the naq or whatever.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:10 pm
by Lore
Valarg wrote:Bazsy wrote:If you dont have the bank capacity to store the bank why do you want an unfair advantage over those who have?
This update was put in for a reason, and that was overbanking. Overbanking is just not fair to those who have bigger banks.
And if you can have the other side set the broker, you can click when you are online and spend the naq or what you get quickly... you also can bank up to your capacity. Whats the problem with that?
Now hold your horses here...
9 of 10 trades I´m in the receivning end... (ppl sell to me) so the problem is not my problem but my trade partners.
What I want is ONE thing...
I don´t care about the bankspace, I want to be able to trade whenever.. wich means that I can accept trades whenever I have time to log on... I work for a living, often 16hrs a day and I really don´t have the time to have "online meetings" just to be able to trade without the initiating part risk loosing their resources.
I want the broker to hold resources and deliver on demand - both ways, a TTL (time to live) before the broker keeps the goods is fine by me.
I actually agree with this. The Broker/bankspace issue will kill trades that are not conducted with both parties online. Maybe just a 12 hour limit?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:20 am
by Bazsy
Will speak with Forum about this too...
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:06 am
by Tyicius
Here's a very simple solution. Go on PPT when recieving naq.... I dont't think it can be taken.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:30 am
by Cobolt
Tyicius wrote:Here's a very simple solution. Go on PPT when recieving naq.... I dont't think it can be taken.

Seriously, you mean that it´s reasonable that each one that trades with me should use a market turn for PPT every time they set up a trade!?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:09 am
by Hells__Angel
Simple? Yes
Effective? No!