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Ascended Cap --> Main Benefit

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:50 pm
by Chris M
i keep hearing about a cap on realm size on ascended. considering the dwarf in the playing field (admittedly by great players, playing great) this server will become unfun soon. even for those alliances who lead it.

now, obviously size *is* everything so if a realm cap is put in place the majority need to be happy with the penalisation.

how about, at a *huge* size (i dunno what figure to say coz i dunno mojo's size, for example :lol: ) Cosmic Expansion Stops. stop producing planets (mayb, maybe not influence) but instead is put towards another function. say something that could be used on main.

reaching a certain size starts a counter, like G+R, which could be spent on main server things like resources Naq, Turns, uu (whatever) or even give a limited period where ascended blessing kick in on every attack. say 1 month of halted UP on ascended gives the player 30mins worth of carnage to unleash on main server (all spent at once). a big ascended boost for a brief time.


i dunno, might sound stupid because i am no where near any legitimate cap size but im just trying to give ideas to keep ascension fun if caps are introduced. the great players should be rewarded for the sacrafice being forced on them

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:54 pm
by bryan
i sort of like it... but it will make cop too strong in main too ;)

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:51 am
by Chris M
well, yea and no.
thats why i was saying its short effects, plus its much easier to wage a war in main then on ascended.

maybe my idea needs tweaking but hey, any more suggestions?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:38 am
by [DDE] Bastion
*grumps about never having turns*

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:21 am
by VARGA
or there could also on ascended G+R range (like Chis M said)and when you get 1000 G&R you can trade those glory for some UUs on main.but for trading this you mustn't have too big army size also on main (not more that 50 mili or something like that)... no this way ascended srver will become more interesting because on ascended are several guys who are on main LG+1 and have army sizes over 20 mili,but on ascended are ranked 1,5k..

another suggesting is some sort of punishment on main if you don't play ascended for real (if you don't attack no1 for 1 week,you lost all UUs you get with UP in 1 week in main or something like that)..

another suggestion is that if you want to ascend 2nd time on main you must have 50k army on ascended and when you want to make 3rd ascend you must have on ascended at least 100k army so you can move to a higher plane of existance..this with army is just an exemple so don't take it so seriussly...


regards

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:26 am
by Hensenshi
Lord Varga wrote:another suggesting is some sort of punishment on main if you don't play ascended for real (if you don't attack no1 for 1 week,you lost all UUs you get with UP in 1 week in main or something like that)..


I've gone weeks without attacking anyone. Do you want to try and tell me that I am not playing ascended for real?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:36 am
by smooshable
For top 10 players there's no one worth attacking. I am lucky if anyone has even one turns worth of DMU out.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:04 am
by VARGA
Hensenshi wrote:
Lord Varga wrote:another suggesting is some sort of punishment on main if you don't play ascended for real (if you don't attack no1 for 1 week,you lost all UUs you get with UP in 1 week in main or something like that)..


I've gone weeks without attacking anyone. Do you want to try and tell me that I am not playing ascended for real?



i'm not taking about you..if you have rank 10 this means that you had to made a lots of attacks before you get this rank and that you had to play good to came so far...i'm taking about guys who sit on pages +50, have 2k ATs,100 UP,but they are on main LG+1...
i wanted to say that too much people are ascended,but they never had play ascended...hope you understand what i mean..

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:33 pm
by Hensenshi
Lord Varga wrote:
Hensenshi wrote:
Lord Varga wrote:another suggesting is some sort of punishment on main if you don't play ascended for real (if you don't attack no1 for 1 week,you lost all UUs you get with UP in 1 week in main or something like that)..


I've gone weeks without attacking anyone. Do you want to try and tell me that I am not playing ascended for real?



i'm not taking about you..if you have rank 10 this means that you had to made a lots of attacks before you get this rank and that you had to play good to came so far...i'm taking about guys who sit on pages +50, have 2k ATs,100 UP,but they are on main LG+1...
i wanted to say that too much people are ascended,but they never had play ascended...hope you understand what i mean..


So what are you going to do? Penalize those who have a low influence? That's not fair for the freshly ascended.

smooshable wrote:For top 10 players there's no one worth attacking. I am lucky if anyone has even one turns worth of DMU out.



JohnLennon was a good farm before he returned to DD. :P I pulled a few bill off of him. I also occasionally find two or three good hits a day. Finding a raid is usually based more on luck.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:42 pm
by VARGA
i didn't mean on penalazing those who are freshly ascended or have low influence..i was thinking just to penalizing those who don't even login or do something with UP,LF,..

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:44 pm
by Hensenshi
Lord Varga wrote:i didn't mean on penalazing those who are freshly ascended or have low influence..i was thinking just to penalizing those who don't even login or do something with UP,LF,..


I know what you're trying to say, you've got the idea, but how to execute that idea is the other question.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:54 am
by VARGA
i don't know Hensenshi know..this will admin have to figure out if the idea will sound good to him..but if you ask me it could me made on the same way like it is when you ascend on main (you get AP to convert into LF),here you will get glory on ascended with will be converted into UU on main...

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:41 pm
by Shooting Star
Let me just say that if there are cap limits imposed in ascension, there had better be significant bonuses given to main accounts because I took severe hits to my main account to get my ascension account to where it is now. My suggestion would be that, if growth in ascension comes to a grinding halt, your planet production be added as a bonus to your UP in main. If you think about it, it is the only fair way to do it. If you are going to negate the advantage that planet production has in ascension, then it should add to main, since every other stat in ascension is still viable and helps your ascension account, and those of us who were smart enough to play ascension well by taking hits to our main account should not be penalized on both servers. Sure I could have quick ascended like some people and gotten to LG+1 and have over 100 million UU right now. But I chose to go a different route (taking a beating from a lot of the LG+1s for quite a while) while I built up my ascension account. Now, those of you who realized your mistake are crying foul and saying that I should be limited because I did it right. You folks made your choice and I made mine. Mine turned out to be the right choice and now you want to penalize me for it. That's fine but then I want my right choice to be added to my main account to make up for the power losses I suffered there while I was making the right choice.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:00 pm
by AI_
Shooting Star wrote:Let me just say that if there are cap limits imposed in ascension, there had better be significant bonuses given to main accounts because I took severe hits to my main account to get my ascension account to where it is now. My suggestion would be that, if growth in ascension comes to a grinding halt, your planet production be added as a bonus to your UP in main. If you think about it, it is the only fair way to do it. If you are going to negate the advantage that planet production has in ascension, then it should add to main, since every other stat in ascension is still viable and helps your ascension account, and those of us who were smart enough to play ascension well by taking hits to our main account should not be penalized on both servers. Sure I could have quick ascended like some people and gotten to LG+1 and have over 100 million UU right now. But I chose to go a different route (taking a beating from a lot of the LG+1s for quite a while) while I built up my ascension account. Now, those of you who realized your mistake are crying foul and saying that I should be limited because I did it right. You folks made your choice and I made mine. Mine turned out to be the right choice and now you want to penalize me for it. That's fine but then I want my right choice to be added to my main account to make up for the power losses I suffered there while I was making the right choice.


very well said mojo, i dont think anyone could have done it better :)