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Glory vs Reputation Points

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:52 pm
by pinkgecko
I think Glory and Reputation Points should be separated the same way that covert and anti covert are, but still add towards one total. Reputation points should remain the same - being one of the top ranked players in the game should count for something.

I think Glory points should be broken out, though. Now that we have Alliance Wars, I think Alliance members should be granted a certain number of glory points based on:

- Difficulty of opposing alliance (if it only has one member, not as many glory points)

- Success of that person's attack against the other alliance (if they always lose, no glory points)

- Difficulty of the enemy alliance members (if they attack the n00bs, no glory.)

That way, attacking someone of higher rank in a difficult alliance and defeating them would get the players quite a bit of glory, and would help them towards ascension. These glory points would still have the same penalties incurred by nox, etc.


I apologize if this has already been suggested. I did go through all the stickies and several of the regular posts, but did not see anything addressing this subject.

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:51 pm
by spasticinformation
So you would need both 1000 glory and 1000 reputation points to ascend. If so no, it takes enough time already assuming you dont have the resources to power ascend.

If they work in addition to or have some other purpose then yes. ie 500 glory and 500 rep points allows you to ascend.

How would you calculate the difficulty of another alliance?

Spastic

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:19 pm
by Obsidian311-
this would basically mean that people who either can't get into a good alliance or are strong enough to protect themselves and don't want to be in an alliance wouldn't be able to get glory points. i say just leave it how it is now.

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:04 pm
by bra`tac
thats a dumb idea...it would take to long to ascend

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:28 pm
by Dagr
If you just needed 1000 of any points it would be fine. Even if you only had 1 glory you could still ascend with the other 999 reputation points. And this could add a new feature to wars, almost like a ranking system(if you kept points after ascending, or there was an alliance record of total earned).

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:38 pm
by Zeratul
perhaps the keeping could be like on quantum?

there one has:
This QuantumVerse Glory _____ ... ____ XX,XXX
Total QuantumSelf Glory ______ ... ____ XX,XXX

and where one needs at least 1k of the "this..." to ascend, and the other number (total...) is from before any previous ascensions...

perhaps the layout could be:

Current Glory_______________ ... ____ XX,XXX
Current reputation ___________ ... ____ XX,XXX

Pre-ascension Glory__________ ... ____ XX,XXX
Pre-ascension Reputation______ ... ____ XX,XXX

...

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:49 pm
by Hakem
I think you'd be better off leaving reputation points for ascension and glory could just be a score that increases with every successful attack (based on the ranking of the enemy you attack, it wouldn't be used for anything but would be displayed for all to see and give you bragging rights

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:38 pm
by *~Starry~*
I think separating glory and reputation is nice...

But...
I would prefer that glory is when you attack/mass...
while reputation is your rank/power

Make ascension harder, cause rank is really easy to get right now...
especially with the number of inactive...:S


~starry

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:30 pm
by pinkgecko
I'm not saying you would be required to have both - one or the other. If you like to get engaged in wars, you can make it just with glory. If you just want to build rank, you could go all with rep points.

To get the non-alliance players, maybe it should be based on all attacks, not just alliance wars. Just need something to reward players for attacking for something besides naq.

The "difficulty" would either be based on your rank vs their rank or your power vs their power. So a guy sitting at 20,000 rank attacking players in the top 2000 could actually accumulate glory points. Maybe only attacks in the top 5000 rankings would count, so you don't have someone at 20,000 getting glory for attacking someone at 15,000...

Anyway, votes are going against. Guess that's the result when you have a bunch of people in the top 1000 in the forums :D

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:35 pm
by spasticinformation
The thing is that you could have every stat at zero except attack leaving you at a low rank, mass someone to high hell and ascend leaving no trace of your attack.

Spastic

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:34 am
by Wolf359
Something like this was suggested a long time ago.......

Found it - it was mentioned a few times in this thread:

http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/vie ... ion+attack

Similar thing, although it doesn't really talk about splitting G&R.