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Admin chat logs - 15/03/07 - 2nd meeting

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:52 pm
by goodie
[12:01:28] * adminHere (mailto:SGW_Guest5@GA-806B746A.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) has joined #theplace
[12:01:29] * %squishie kills Psi_Kiya_Trist off
[12:01:34] <Lysander> hey admin
[12:01:45] <adminHere> afternoon :)
[12:01:50] * +Psi_Kiya_Trist is already dead, burned and ashes scattered to the 4 winds
[12:01:58] <adminHere> lol
[12:02:04] <Lysander> hes the lkucky one
[12:02:13] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> hi admin
[12:02:19] <Motte> wb adminHere
[12:02:23] <adminHere> :)
[12:02:48] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> i think i forgot to tell admin himself that i resigned ^^;
[12:02:48] <adminHere> its like i work a split-shift on wednesdays :) (although i guess that implies time off between ;) )
[12:02:56] <adminHere> you did :)
[12:03:03] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> oh, ok
[12:03:06] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> in that case :)
[12:03:26] <adminHere> i got it 2nd hand, though... it is sad ... but i will not hold it against you :)
[12:03:56] * Lysander (mailto:dansmyth@GA-A4958524.bas503.dsl.esat.net) Quit (Quit: )
[12:04:10] <10%squishie> i hold everything against Psi_Kiya_Trist... its all his fault now
[12:04:17] <_DrAgOn_> hey admin
[12:04:23] <adminHere> its a lot of work, you did for a long time... a break (temporary or otherwise) is understandable...
[12:04:47] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> it's just funny what gave me the idea
[12:04:54] <adminHere> ?
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[12:05:15] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> oh, a mod started swearing at me in what looked liek a drunken rage
[12:05:30] <adminHere> lol...booze & keyboards make bad combinations
[12:05:45] <10%squishie> yes... sparks and fire
[12:05:47] <adminHere> almost worse than 'drinking and dialing' since its all recorded :)
[12:06:06] <Lord_Rylan> hey admin
[12:06:18] <adminHere> although you can always use the 'my cat at the keyboard - what are the odds that they actually typed real words - insulting ones at that!'
[12:06:26] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> worse, cause it was over someone else's msn
[12:06:47] <adminHere> yup...ah - people issues :)
[12:06:56] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> so true...
[12:07:03] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> i was so good at them too...
[12:07:17] <adminHere> when i managed a team of tech support people, all 25+ - it was like being a kindergarden teacher :)
[12:07:38] <adminHere> sure, they could fix anything...but those people issues ...
[12:07:39] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> lol...
[12:07:58] <adminHere> ok - lets get on track here :) meeting open ! :)
[12:08:16] <_DrAgOn_> there is a bug in ToC - i'm not getting advance points for rank 1 (dominance server)
[12:08:27] <_DrAgOn_> so can someone chack this problem?
[12:08:28] * +Psi_Kiya_Trist giggles *
[12:08:35] <adminHere> i brought up the ascension changes this AM but everyone was more or less ok with the changes as they are now... (dragon -yes i will)
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[12:08:46] <_DrAgOn_> thx
[12:09:03] <07lildragon> :O
[12:09:05] <07lildragon> im like
[12:09:06] <adminHere> anyone here with remaining ascension change issues? :)
[12:09:07] <Motte> adminHere i checked the changes and i dont have any negative word to them
[12:09:09] <07lildragon> missing the admin chat
[12:09:12] * lildragon is now known as Goodie
[12:09:43] <adminHere> motte - that is good :) anyone else, or can i move off ascension topic?
[12:10:02] <adminHere> going once...going twice...
[12:10:12] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> wait
[12:10:12] <adminHere> alright - open floor :)
[12:10:17] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> o nvm
[12:10:25] <adminHere> lol
[12:10:53] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i was just wondering how are the last weeks syggestion coming up, i mean that have u thought of any good ideas worth implementing
[12:11:11] <adminHere> those ascension changes were last weeks :)
[12:11:26] <07Goodie> hmm
[12:11:30] <07Goodie> open floor....
[12:11:49] <adminHere> i have most of the suggestions that i can implement/want to implement from 2weeks ago done too
[12:12:02] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> k
[12:12:16] <Motte> :)
[12:12:18] <adminHere> i think ascension will stay stable for now... a lot of changes recently. gotta let them sink in a bit.
[12:12:26] <07Goodie> random question ive had for a while, the ascension "spider" (as it was, may not be called now), why did you pick that picture adminHere? :P
[12:12:35] <adminHere> Q i am not going to change this era, except possibly raid% and any market tweaks if required.
[12:12:50] <adminHere> Chaos I want to revisit ... but will do that likely next week.
[12:12:53] <adminHere> and so that leavs main :)
[12:13:08] <adminHere> goodie - which pic?
[12:13:13] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i was wondering can u implement planets that boost your Motherships power (Def,Atk,Fleets)
[12:13:21] <07Goodie> erm, the one that pops up at 1001 G&R on main
[12:13:30] <+Psi_Kiya_Trist> the one which is "ascend to the ascended plain
[12:13:36] <adminHere> hmm... sgc - not thought of that.
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[12:13:43] <07Goodie> evangelion unit 01 with wings
[12:13:44] <07Goodie> >.>
[12:13:48] <BL1P> I have a question do Up+Up planets exist and can they be made via a market purchase
[12:13:54] <adminHere> goodie - it was small, looked ascendie like, and was something i did and never looked back :)
[12:14:03] <07Goodie> lol
[12:14:17] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> how use words
[12:14:20] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> YOU CAN ASCND
[12:14:34] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> click here!
[12:14:44] <07Goodie> hmm, double up planets BL1P?
[12:14:46] <07Goodie> o.0
[12:14:46] <Motte> still the pic from Star Trek on command star on ascension is funny
[12:14:51] <07Goodie> i would guess so.... :?
[12:14:53] <adminHere> i know the pic. its clickable. if a random pic shows up on your base page, that is never there before, guaranteed it'll get clicked :)
[12:14:53] <07Goodie> well
[12:15:04] <BL1P> Goodie yes double up
[12:15:10] <adminHere> and if you cant find to click it, you're un-ascension worthy ;)
[12:15:11] <07Goodie> hmm
[12:15:14] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> or double anything
[12:15:18] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> of the same stats
[12:15:23] <07Goodie> if you can get double other stat planets
[12:15:24] <Motte> lol adminHere
[12:15:24] <BL1P> double other stats i know of
[12:15:28] <07Goodie> then im gonna guess a double UP planet
[12:15:30] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> really?
[12:15:30] <07Goodie> is possible
[12:15:33] <BL1P> yes rep
[12:15:36] <07Goodie> it will just be a case
[12:15:38] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> tell me locatoin :p
[12:15:39] <07Goodie> of finding it
[12:15:40] <adminHere> motte -ya :) figured not everyone would recognize it ...
[12:15:50] <Motte> ;)
[12:15:58] <BL1P> Up+UP ive never seen
[12:16:10] <07Goodie> well
[12:16:13] <adminHere> there are actually 'double one stat' planets. but you'd never know as it is just a bit higher in one stat than not...
[12:16:21] <07Goodie> with double stat planets being as rare as they are
[12:16:26] <adminHere> its not '2 counts' but 1 count, that is higher to start
[12:16:26] <07Goodie> and up planets also being rare
[12:16:39] <07Goodie> double up would be super rare
[12:16:40] <07Goodie> =/
[12:16:41] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> ups are not rare anymore
[12:16:44] <BL1P> so there are no actual 2xups ?
[12:16:58] <adminHere> not 2 with 2 'counts'
[12:17:05] <BL1P> ok
[12:17:06] * +Psi_Kiya_Trist wishes he had a double UP planet
[12:17:18] <BL1P> i been trying too buy one on the market for ages :P
[12:17:21] <BL1P> ill stop now :P
[12:17:24] <adminHere> the way the planets work, i could not do that even if i wanted
[12:17:24] <07Goodie> lol
[12:17:35] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> hey admin
[12:17:35] <adminHere> there are triple count planets, too
[12:17:38] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> u no the personal log
[12:17:42] <adminHere> yes
[12:17:53] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> u can make strange things poping up with the log
[12:17:58] <07Goodie> triple?
[12:18:00] <07Goodie> 0_)
[12:18:01] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> like u CAN code crap in it
[12:18:01] <07Goodie> 0_0
[12:18:04] <adminHere> explain SGC
[12:18:16] <07Goodie> hmm, if theres tripple
[12:18:27] <adminHere> like what type of code? html? javascript?
[12:18:29] <adminHere> php?
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[12:18:30] <07Goodie> would it be possible to get a planet with up, covert, attack and defense, all in one? :P
[12:18:32] <FreeSpirit> hi all
[12:18:40] <BL1P> Goodie he means like def+up+att
[12:18:43] <adminHere> goodie - 3 is max now
[12:18:46] <07Goodie> hmmm
[12:18:50] <07Goodie> awwww
[12:18:50] <07Goodie> :(
[12:18:56] <07Goodie> it would of been fun to have all in one
[12:18:58] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i mean when i was trading personal lopgs
[12:19:01] * +Psi_Kiya_Trist (mailto:rybiArt@GA-1965D4F8.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) Quit (Quit: mother needs me to help clean...)
[12:19:12] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> going through them to raid
[12:19:13] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i click one
[12:19:21] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> and a window popped up
[12:19:32] <adminHere> sgc -yes... a raid window, right?
[12:19:33] <BL1P> btw admin thx for the beers in liverpool !!!!
[12:19:42] <adminHere> welcome blip - hope it was fun!
[12:19:44] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> not really a raid window
[12:19:52] <BL1P> it was i woke up next too jake :P
[12:20:03] <adminHere> show me the link you used sgc -
[12:20:14] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> its not there anymore
[12:20:15] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i removed it
[12:20:17] <adminHere> i allow links to open new windows
[12:20:28] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> it didnt open any links
[12:20:32] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> it opened a small window
[12:20:35] <adminHere> but if you 'miscode' your link, who knows what you'll do :) can't hurt the game though
[12:20:44] <BL1P> erm a point i would like is if merlins could be removed please
[12:20:49] <adminHere> sgc -without seeing what you had there, i cant comment
[12:20:51] <BL1P> so when you ppt ya dont waste it
[12:21:41] <adminHere> blip -no :) .... the on/off button on those MPDSD is flaky. it drains all power if you try to turn it off :)
[12:22:02] <BL1P> shame there expensive as it is and get wasted on ppt
[12:22:18] <BL1P> couldnt the ppt no include the merlin or something ?
[12:22:32] <adminHere> if i did that, id have all sorts of 'what if i end ppt early' etc etc
[12:22:48] <BL1P> ok :)
[12:22:53] <adminHere> maybe ppt should not also protect planets :)
[12:23:06] <BL1P> erm forget i spoke :)
[12:23:11] <adminHere> lol
[12:23:21] <Ston> admin: wouldnt it be sufficient if nox only phases you out for the current turn when max hits are reached and decreases by 4 hits every turn instead of having max 17 hits above the limit and protecting the player 2 hours long?
[12:23:22] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> lol
[12:23:22] <adminHere> i see your point -it is just not an easy thing to mix - mpdsd and ppt
[12:23:58] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> can u put a limit on how many MPSD stored
[12:24:03] <adminHere> ston - if you have a limit, and phase when over, how do you get 17 over limit inthe 1st place?
[12:24:38] <adminHere> if you can, i've left a hole somewhere
[12:24:56] <adminHere> sgc - why?
[12:25:06] <Ston> war declare counts towards pahse count
[12:25:12] <adminHere> ahhh
[12:25:21] <Ston> well if you get rid of that its ok
[12:25:26] <adminHere> so maybe if war hit, and over limit, dont add it?
[12:25:41] <Ston> yup
[12:25:46] <Ston> or dont add war hits at all
[12:25:51] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> like i mean some ppl already have like over 110 days worth of MPSD collected using $$$ now by the looks of it its going to contunie and there planets will never be taken ever
[12:25:52] <BL1P> dont limit merlins plz :)
[12:26:13] * BL1P smiles :P
[12:26:31] <adminHere> ston - i like no add war
[12:26:55] <FreeSpirit> therre shoudnt be a limit on merlin
[12:27:10] <Ston> :)
[12:27:22] <adminHere> sgc - some ppl also use their weekly to build up... then use them when they have a lot so they can planet build
[12:27:24] <BL1P> it generates cash for the admin so i cant see him limiting it :P
[12:27:35] <FreeSpirit> if people wanna spend their precious mt's on merlin let them
[12:27:47] <Munchy98> it is rather rediculous with the merlines thing, some people have pretty much unlimited quanties when mixed with ppts
[12:27:50] <adminHere> whether its $ or market turns, build build buid hten use is a valid strategy
[12:28:13] <BL1P> yer ya can get 69 a week if ya want
[12:28:15] <adminHere> some ppl are getting mpdsd and they dont even have planets yet :)
[12:28:18] <BL1P> did you know that admin ?
[12:28:23] <adminHere> 69/week?
[12:28:26] <BL1P> yes
[12:28:30] <BL1P> 2 uss and 3 mts
[12:28:37] <Munchy98> uss=1 mt
[12:28:42] <BL1P> nope
[12:28:42] <Munchy98> I think...
[12:28:49] <BL1P> uss from another person too your account
[12:29:04] <Munchy98> I thought it still used one of your mt's...
[12:29:07] <BL1P> nope
[12:29:08] <FreeSpirit> admin the personal log system
[12:29:12] <FreeSpirit> what coding are you using?
[12:29:17] <adminHere> i never did the addition but i still think if ppl want to dedicate their efforts and resources to mpdsd its ok
[12:29:27] <BL1P> k cool
[12:29:32] <adminHere> free - same as everything else. php&mysql
[12:29:38] <FreeSpirit> thought so
[12:29:45] <adminHere> why?
[12:29:54] <FreeSpirit> me and some friends had a betting
[12:29:58] <FreeSpirit> i said it was php and my sql
[12:30:01] <FreeSpirit> they said html lol
[12:30:07] <adminHere> well the php writes html
[12:30:14] <FreeSpirit> it writes html yeah
[12:30:23] <adminHere> php alone cant make a webpage :)
[12:30:31] <FreeSpirit> i know ;)
[12:30:37] <FreeSpirit> remember im a gamemaker myself
[12:30:44] <adminHere> yes. i forgot.
[12:30:48] <adminHere> so yes - php
[12:31:00] <BL1P> do many people actualy use the cash option in the game market as its always more expensive than the black market ?!
[12:31:33] <adminHere> compared to how many use the unofficial black market blip - i have no way of comparing...
[12:31:39] <07Goodie> admins cash market has security
[12:31:51] <BL1P> true
[12:31:59] <07Goodie> hes not gonna take your $ and give you no naq or w/e
[12:32:01] <BL1P> it just doesnt seem competative
[12:32:02] <adminHere> and i dont have to be on msn at the time, either ;)
[12:32:19] <07Goodie> not that many have your msn....
[12:32:20] <07Goodie> >.>
[12:32:23] <07Goodie> <.<
[12:32:39] <adminHere> right now the 'official' black market is what - 1.8 x more expensive? on average?
[12:32:43] <FreeSpirit> one more question admin does the personal log allow html,php,mysql codes?
[12:32:45] <Lord_Rylan> and the money he gets can go back into the game
[12:32:50] <FreeSpirit> cause then i can look mine more special
[12:33:05] <adminHere> free - it allows <a href and <a but thats it
[12:33:12] <FreeSpirit> ok
[12:33:12] <07Goodie> hmmmm
[12:33:22] <adminHere> i did some fancy string replaces :)
[12:33:27] <07Goodie> if it allowed php and mysql codes
[12:33:31] <07Goodie> then you could go
[12:33:34] <adminHere> no. it does not.
[12:33:45] <07Goodie> update userdetails set untrainedsold = 9999999999999999999999
[12:33:47] <adminHere> try it. i think you'll see :)
[12:33:53] <07Goodie> >_>
[12:33:57] <07Goodie> <_<
[12:34:13] <FreeSpirit> just tried
[12:34:15] <FreeSpirit> indeed doesnt work
[12:34:17] <07Goodie> lol
[12:34:23] <adminHere> if you do find a hole, - a real one, not one that can make your own font red or such -- i'll give you 500,000 UU
[12:34:30] <07Goodie> hmm
[12:34:32] <07Goodie> 500k?
[12:34:33] <07Goodie> :(
[12:34:34] <07Goodie> meh
[12:34:36] <07Goodie> worth a try
[12:34:39] <FreeSpirit> only 500k :(
[12:34:40] <adminHere> ok - 1mil
[12:34:43] <FreeSpirit> thats better
[12:34:44] <07Goodie> although
[12:34:44] <BL1P> ya cant im over 50mil :P
[12:34:45] <07Goodie> hmmm
[12:34:49] <adminHere> i can :)
[12:34:55] <07Goodie> does it use eval() or anything in the code? :P
[12:34:55] <BL1P> lol i know !
[12:35:14] <adminHere> goodie - yes...it uses 'or anything'
[12:35:30] <07Goodie> hmmm
[12:35:30] <BL1P> only just realise your cash market wouldnt let me buy uu anyway :)
[12:35:32] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> whats this 500k
[12:35:35] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> thingy
[12:35:44] <07Goodie> hmmmm
[12:35:50] <07Goodie> or anything, as you said
[12:36:04] <07Goodie> str_replace, or preg_replace
[12:36:10] <07Goodie> not much you can exploit there
[12:36:11] <07Goodie> i think
[12:37:27] <Ston> gnite
[12:37:30] * Ston (mailto:ston@gathers.no.moss.as.he.rolls.de) Quit (Quit: )
[12:37:52] <FreeSpirit> 500k if ya find bugs in the personal log
[12:37:54] <adminHere> sgc - if you find a security hole in the personal log. and can show it to me :)
[12:38:01] <adminHere> not just bugs - problem bugs :)
[12:38:04] <FreeSpirit> he even uppered it to 1 mil
[12:38:07] <07Goodie> hmmm
[12:38:07] <adminHere> yes
[12:38:19] <FreeSpirit> im going to have some fun tonight
[12:38:23] <adminHere> lol...
[12:38:37] <adminHere> ok - moving on :)
[12:38:39] <07Goodie> hmmmm
[12:38:54] <adminHere> the only issue i have written down is the nox & war issue... going way overlimit
[12:39:08] <FreeSpirit> did ya look into the chaos bug?
[12:39:16] <adminHere> the alliance one? should be solved.
[12:39:20] * homer sets mode: +q adminHere
[12:39:21] <FreeSpirit> ok thnx
[12:39:31] <12~adminHere> disband alliance did not really work till i fixed it. sorta 'zombied' the alliance :)
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[12:39:53] <Lord_Rylan> admin when are u going to be doing updates to alliances?
[12:39:57] <07Goodie> hmmm
[12:39:59] <07Goodie> o.0
[12:40:01] <07Goodie> [code type = "codecode" >
[12:40:14] <07Goodie> :(
[12:40:21] <12~adminHere> hopefully in the next 30 to 60 days, rylan
[12:40:40] * SGW_Guest154 is now known as JS
[12:40:42] <12~adminHere> thats some messy code, goodie
[12:40:44] <JS> holla
[12:40:51] <Lord_Rylan> cool
[12:40:54] <JS> alliance updates?
[12:40:55] <FreeSpirit> very messy lol
[12:41:02] <07Goodie> yeah, i havnt learnt javascript that much at all
[12:41:04] <12~adminHere> js - alliance updates hopefully 30 to 60 days.
[12:41:08] <JS> I was thinking a transcript of these meetings would be nice
[12:41:12] <JS> cool what kind?
[12:41:13] <07Goodie> hmm
[12:41:21] <07Goodie> i might be able to do that JS
[12:41:22] <07Goodie> :P
[12:41:24] <12~adminHere> all kinds js - i'm going to do a cleanup&update.
[12:41:29] <07Goodie> i did it for the first few
[12:41:31] <JS> cool
[12:41:36] <JS> im up for that :D
[12:41:37] <FreeSpirit> killing ac?
[12:41:44] <BL1P> whats that an aliance bank for main ?
[12:41:45] <12~adminHere> free - not this week.
[12:41:50] <FreeSpirit> ok cool
[12:41:54] <12~adminHere> but its still on radar
[12:41:56] <FreeSpirit> but on the to do list right?
[12:41:58] <FreeSpirit> cool
[12:41:59] <12~adminHere> yes
[12:42:18] <FreeSpirit> forum bots?
[12:42:21] <12~adminHere> some of the bigger suggestions, even that are on the list, take a fair bit of time - like killing AC
[12:42:30] <12~adminHere> bots? what?
[12:42:31] <JS> and motherships lol
[12:42:32] <FreeSpirit> phpbb v3.0 should fix that probably
[12:42:44] <FreeSpirit> yeah there are forum bots popping up now and then
[12:42:47] <12~adminHere> that is also on my list - 3.0
[12:42:56] <12~adminHere> as is finishing hte banner contest :)
[12:43:01] <JS> Admin did you read my suggestion on ascension worship?
[12:43:05] <12~adminHere> damn. i have too much to do :)
[12:43:07] <07Goodie> an admins work is never ever done
[12:43:08] <07Goodie> :(
[12:43:15] <JS> true goodie :D
[12:43:19] <12~adminHere> js - if it was posted this AM, not yet
[12:43:32] <JS> i posted it yesterday I think
[12:43:37] <JS> in Sheehans suggestion thread
[12:43:38] <Motte> yeah Goodie and sometimes i think he would like to kill us for that :P
[12:43:47] <12~adminHere> no. not yet. i have my list first, before i go looking for more work :)
[12:43:48] <FreeSpirit> lol admin if ya need help coding i told yua before
[12:43:50] <07Goodie> of course
[12:43:51] <07Goodie> lol
[12:43:51] <FreeSpirit> ya know where to find me
[12:43:58] <12~adminHere> thanks free
[12:44:02] <JS> its also not a finished idea..
[12:44:06] <JS> sorry
[12:44:11] <07Goodie> hmmmmm
[12:44:14] <FreeSpirit> i know html php, mysql javascript and pearl
[12:44:28] <12~adminHere> pearl?
[12:44:34] <07Goodie> perl i think he means
[12:44:36] <FreeSpirit> yeah we dutchies name it pearl
[12:44:37] <12~adminHere> :)
[12:44:39] <12~adminHere> ah
[12:44:53] <07Goodie> i just have html, php, mysql and basic JS in my reposotory
[12:45:02] <12~adminHere> the code is a tough one, as its just so big now.
[12:45:11] * Motte learns c++ at school
[12:45:15] <Motte> well should learn
[12:45:20] <07Goodie> by the end of this semester i should be able to add ASP (>.<) and proper JS to it
[12:45:21] * [SGC_ReplicAtors] same here motte
[12:45:26] * JS learnt nothing about computers in school
[12:45:33] <FreeSpirit> lol
[12:45:43] * [SGC_ReplicAtors] learning stupid assembly language
[12:45:48] <12~adminHere> i never took a computer class... learned it all on the job when i should have beendoing something else :)
[12:46:00] <FreeSpirit> same here
[12:46:10] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> aquired skill ;ol
[12:46:15] <12~adminHere> although really wish sometimes i did take it in a class :)
[12:46:25] <07Goodie> rofl
[12:46:27] * BL1P (mailto:NNSCRIPT@GA-2B3FA84B.lond-a-3.ac ... iscali.com) Quit (Quit: Already know you that which you need...)
[12:46:35] <12~adminHere> looking back at old code (alliances, motherships) i know i could have done it a lot better :)
[12:46:40] <JS> same here admin
[12:46:41] <07Goodie> see! admin isnt as perfect as he would have us believe!
[12:46:44] <12~adminHere> lol
[12:46:52] <FreeSpirit> yeah but thats always when ya look back admin
[12:46:53] * Motte makes an education as technical assistent for IT
[12:46:58] <FreeSpirit> even i have that problem
[12:46:59] <12~adminHere> it was my cat typing! what are the chances the cat would make real words!
[12:47:13] <FreeSpirit> i acctually got a friend who cleans up my codes as i tend to make the code bigger as needed
[12:47:35] <12~adminHere> ok - moving back on track to game topics :)
[12:47:39] <JS> my basic idea on ascension is that you get all races to choose which ascended race to worship, (like in the series) the more people wworship them the more powerful the race is, and the harder it is to descend them becuase they can draw their power witht he other ascendeds
[12:47:42] <FreeSpirit> lol ok
[12:48:10] <Motte> JS sounds like much work for Admin
[12:48:13] <12~adminHere> open floor... <js - not bad... i'd have to add godly worship and donations to main, but never was against that>
[12:48:19] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> do we get blessed with origin?
[12:48:33] <FreeSpirit> i like js idea
[12:48:44] <Motte> same
[12:48:47] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> limit to how many ppl u cna worship u
[12:48:48] <12~adminHere> i'd do it so that main had 4 gods you could pray to... with some type of 'random' return
[12:48:49] <Lord_Rylan> no, u bow before the system lords as gods ;)
[12:48:54] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i dont need 500
[12:48:59] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> ppl warshipping 1 person
[12:49:00] <JS> well
[12:49:12] <JS> the gods dont do anything in return
[12:49:19] <Motte> be quite aunt_Rylan :P
[12:49:35] <Lord_Rylan> I do like the idea tho
[12:49:37] <12~adminHere> anyway - for another day :) not this week ... (and the gods would... else nobody would worship them :) )
[12:49:53] <JS> ok hehe
[12:49:54] <12~adminHere> gods can curse you too, though
[12:50:00] <12~adminHere> so watch what you wish for :)
[12:50:05] <JS> but what do you think of the concept of sharing power?
[12:50:18] <JS> for the 4 races
[12:50:21] <Motte> well 1 am here
[12:50:21] <12~adminHere> it'd have to cost...
[12:50:22] <JS> in ascended
[12:50:25] <FreeSpirit> ascended fusion?
[12:50:29] * Motte is AFK -(sleeping)- -7H-7o-7m-7e-7r-15S-15c-15r-15i-15p-15t-
[12:50:29] <12~adminHere> lol
[12:50:30] <JS> well
[12:50:32] <Lord_Rylan> and what would be the 4 races?
[12:50:36] <Motte> time to get some sleep
[12:50:37] <Motte> nn all and thanks again for all Admin
[12:50:38] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> ascended MIGHT
[12:50:42] <JS> you know why the ori never ascend anyone
[12:50:44] <12~adminHere> sya motte. till next time :)
[12:50:48] <JS> becuase they will have to share the power
[12:50:53] <Motte> sure
[12:50:57] <JS> so the more of a race that there is
[12:51:04] <JS> the less the individual has
[12:51:09] <JS> but the more powerful the race has
[12:51:11] <JS> sooo
[12:51:22] <JS> it would take like maybe 3 or 4 people to descend one person
[12:51:26] <JS> however
[12:51:32] <JS> he could get 3 or 4 buddies to help him
[12:51:36] <JS> if ya get me
[12:52:04] <FreeSpirit> jason?
[12:52:07] <FreeSpirit> i just tested chaos
[12:52:08] <12~adminHere> if i were to do it JS - i'd do it something like: ascended beings can contribute to 'earthly pool' -- main beings can set worship to a god type -- and get some of that contributed pool in return..maybe.. then some bonus for count of worshipers for the ascended race.
[12:52:13] <FreeSpirit> Warning: Division by zero in /game/stargame/chaosgate.stargatewars.com/i_alliances.php on line 414
[12:52:18] <12~adminHere> lol
[12:52:22] <12~adminHere> one sec free
[12:52:52] <JS> yeah that sounds like an idea alright
[12:52:56] <JS> but i mean
[12:53:26] <JS> there should be something like say Ori - 10% more UP or something Ancient - 10% more power
[12:53:33] <JS> (sorry dont know the other ascended races lol
[12:54:03] <JS> a little help :p
[12:54:20] <FreeSpirit> tollan, system lord, ancient, nanotimaster
[12:54:28] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> Nanotimaster
[12:54:32] <12~adminHere> damn zombie alliance had no members (thus /0)
[12:54:33] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> change that to Asuran
[12:54:35] <12~adminHere> try it again free
[12:54:59] <JS> have to get rid of asgard lol
[12:55:10] <07Goodie> people would complain if you changed nanotimaster
[12:55:11] <07Goodie> >.<
[12:55:18] <07Goodie> i would <3 to see asuran there though
[12:55:22] <JS> why would they complain
[12:55:37] <JS> same as changing tauri to human
[12:55:38] <12~adminHere> on races - i have said before - i am not changing them, but will likely allow 'custom race' in future.
[12:55:40] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> it goes with the show
[12:56:12] <JS> is it based on SG1 or Atlantis or both
[12:56:16] <JS> im thinking sg1
[12:56:50] <FreeSpirit> seems to work admin but ill know for sure at the tick
[12:56:50] <12~adminHere> ok - few mins left. i have written down very little (new) ... anything else on ppl's minds?
[12:57:10] <07Goodie> hmmm
[12:57:26] <12~adminHere> anyone go to see pres. bush in latin america ;)
[12:57:29] <JS> Mothership Ideas?
[12:57:32] <07Goodie> many
[12:57:34] <Lord_Rylan> well whe u are ready to start doing alliance updates, I have a lot of ideas
[12:57:35] <07Goodie> none reasnoble
[12:57:45] <12~adminHere> i'll forum it rylan, when its time
[12:57:51] <Lord_Rylan> ok
[12:57:55] <12~adminHere> only g-rated, too, goodie ;)
[12:58:01] <Lord_Rylan> lol
[12:58:02] <07Goodie> not g-rated
[12:58:03] <EliteAceman[DD]> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:58:10] <07Goodie> i was thinking more along the lines of
[12:58:12] <EliteAceman[DD]> i wasted 1000 ascention turns for the dude to go on vacation
[12:58:14] <EliteAceman[DD]> oops
[12:58:18] <EliteAceman[DD]> hi
[12:58:19] <JS> lmao
[12:58:22] <JS> that sucks
[12:58:25] <12~adminHere> elite - you just lost him 50% of his main bonus
[12:58:33] <FreeSpirit> jaso you on msn tonight?
[12:58:37] <EliteAceman[DD]> yea well i lost 50% of my turns :-)
[12:58:39] <FreeSpirit> as ill let ya know about chaos when tick passed
[12:58:41] <07Goodie> "big red anti-cop kill all cop button only availible to goodie that actualy works"
[12:58:44] <Lord_Rylan> permanent descension :)
[12:58:45] <12~adminHere> free -maybe. likely not tonight, but tomorrow i turn my msn on :)
[12:58:48] <EliteAceman[DD]> 50% is too muchb for a coward
[12:58:57] <EliteAceman[DD]> its not like he really "went on vacation"
[12:58:59] <EliteAceman[DD]> hes hiding
[12:59:13] <12~adminHere> hiding at a 50% cost, and still as vulnerable when he returns, elite
[12:59:14] <JS> i have never hit the vacation button
[12:59:17] <JS> what does it do?
[12:59:19] <JS> lol
[12:59:25] <07Goodie> lol
[12:59:26] <EliteAceman[DD]> we should change it from "vaction mode" to "Scared Mode"
[12:59:29] <12~adminHere> lol
[12:59:36] <JS> LMAO agreed elite
[12:59:39] <EliteAceman[DD]> -5% bonus
[12:59:41] <FreeSpirit> lol everyone has his own oppinion about that
[12:59:48] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> but in vactaion u dont gain anything
[12:59:54] <JS> there should be options for vacation
[12:59:57] <JS> scared
[12:59:59] <JS> family
[13:00:00] <12~adminHere> a button pushed, shows not its motive for having been pushed....
[13:00:01] <JS> job
[13:00:02] <EliteAceman[DD]> I would call it abuse of vacation mode
[13:00:11] <EliteAceman[DD]> all or nothing
[13:00:36] <12~adminHere> ascension will stay as is, more or less, for at least a month while hte changes are truly tried.
[13:00:47] <12~adminHere> no more big changes there for a bit :)
[13:01:03] <JS> admin are ascension and main going to be linked more then they already are?
[13:01:20] <12~adminHere> ok - last chance for new comments/questions/etc... <js - not in the next month, at least>
[13:01:35] <EliteAceman[DD]> well im ranked 200 so it will take me 1000 turns to get my turns back
[13:01:43] <JS> can you add new technologies?
[13:01:44] * Goodie reiterates his request for a anti cop kill them all button
[13:01:45] <07Goodie> >.>
[13:01:47] <07Goodie> <.<
[13:01:57] <12~adminHere> i CAN do anything, js
[13:02:05] <JS> hmm
[13:02:06] <JS> well
[13:02:09] * Ferra slaps Goodie
[13:02:12] <EliteAceman[DD]> so someone has one of my planets and has mirlins device on it
[13:02:19] <EliteAceman[DD]> and the beacon says its in "normal space"
[13:02:22] <EliteAceman[DD]> which its not
[13:02:28] <Lord_Rylan> Goodie, only if there can also be an anti-cia button
[13:02:36] <JS> i do have some new ideas for technologies
[13:02:37] <12~adminHere> what is your beacon name on it, elite
[13:02:37] <07Goodie> hmmm
[13:02:40] <12~adminHere> and your id
[13:02:41] <JS> will write them down
[13:02:45] <07Goodie> id just have to hit it first
[13:02:47] <EliteAceman[DD]> 19889 is my id
[13:02:50] <12~adminHere> ok js.
[13:02:57] <07Goodie> without cop, they cant hit it
[13:03:03] <JS> your timing for these is always off by a hour
[13:03:11] <JS> start work
[13:03:13] <JS> finish work
[13:03:15] <12~adminHere> elite - your beacon name?
[13:03:26] <EliteAceman[DD]> Hobbes
[13:03:26] <Lord_Rylan> and its like MAD....once u hit it, the other side automatically hits theirs as well
[13:03:29] <EliteAceman[DD]> is the beacon name
[13:03:41] <12~adminHere> ok. i'll see if its a bug and fix if it is :)
[13:04:00] <EliteAceman[DD]> if its a bug i should get the planet back as a reward ;-)
[13:04:07] <JS> oh and are you working on motherships admin
[13:04:19] <12~adminHere> not this second, js
[13:04:41] <EliteAceman[DD]> i wish i could sell my MS stuff in ascention so i could get my rank back up to 800 :-p
[13:05:00] <JS> ok thats cool,
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[13:05:39] <JS> im a big fan of motherships :)
[13:05:55] <EliteAceman[DD]> Did you fix that sometimes you cant spy on people but you can attack them (it gives you the phased message)
[13:06:24] <EliteAceman[DD]> i always catch the last 30 seconds of these meetings
[13:06:30] <FreeSpirit> lol
[13:06:35] <JS> i always miss them cos of work
[13:06:36] <FreeSpirit> gte on earlier then
[13:06:45] <12~adminHere> elite - i think it was a timing issue
[13:06:48] <JS> my boss was looking at me with a second head :)
[13:06:55] <12~adminHere> :)
[13:06:59] <EliteAceman[DD]> oh yea
[13:07:06] <FreeSpirit> be youre own boss like i am :D
[13:07:10] <EliteAceman[DD]> can we make one of the other url's less graphical?
[13:07:16] <EliteAceman[DD]> like thegatewars.com
[13:07:21] <07Goodie> hmmm
[13:07:31] <07Goodie> less graphical and without the meta tags? :P
[13:07:34] <12~adminHere> elite - on the spy not attack (or visa versa) is a bug i have from this AM meeting too... top of list
[13:07:35] <EliteAceman[DD]> take out all the images and make it all texts and buttons
[13:07:48] <JS> who wants to hear a nerd joke?
[13:07:58] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> ok
[13:07:59] <12~adminHere> elite - dialup?
[13:08:04] <EliteAceman[DD]> sometimes i have to login remotely to bypass word security and the images lag
[13:08:05] <FreeSpirit> save the joke till meeting is done ;)
[13:08:10] <JS> Today was Pie Holiday
[13:08:15] <JS> 3.14
[13:08:18] <JS> :)
[13:08:20] <EliteAceman[DD]> all the black slows me down
[13:08:21] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> 1459]
[13:08:41] <12~adminHere> odd elite. 1459 sgc?
[13:08:43] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> hey admin
[13:08:50] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> 3.14159
[13:08:59] <EliteAceman[DD]> 1459?
[13:09:01] <12~adminHere> elite -did you get that on the planet - likely timing issue... not a bug.
[13:09:03] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> oops
[13:09:10] <EliteAceman[DD]> oh
[13:09:18] <12~adminHere> yes - date 3.14 is very inexact for a geek ;)
[13:09:24] <EliteAceman[DD]> it wasnt on the guy when i looked at him
[13:09:29] <EliteAceman[DD]> so i used the beacon
[13:09:32] <EliteAceman[DD]> and it said he had it
[13:09:33] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> hey admin can u make the atk logs a little shorter
[13:09:58] * aslan 12is AFK, 1104Z07z08Z09Z12z11z13Z04Z07z08z09z12Z11z13z04z07z08z 03—14I03-15n03-15v03-00i03-00s03-15i03-15o03-14n03—
[13:10:02] <12~adminHere> hmmm - elite. will double check. i dont show it on either, but maybe it is a 'false positive' - will check.
[13:10:05] * aslan is now known as wacky
[13:10:07] <12~adminHere> sgc - to what end?
[13:10:14] <EliteAceman[DD]> so anyways can we make 1 of our many url's more text based? mainly the login page
[13:10:18] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> i dunno keep the military stats
[13:10:45] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> and the comments like u burnated the enmey and such
[13:10:56] <JS> LMAO @ Admin just showed that to my buddy.. hes going yeah.. and hanging his head in shame lol
[13:11:05] <EliteAceman[DD]> which could also be batter for mobile internet
[13:11:20] <JS> i cant log in on my mobile
[13:11:23] <JS> always times out
[13:11:28] <JS> although could be Ireland
[13:11:43] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> like lkeep the numbers a simple u took this or raided that
[13:11:47] <12~adminHere> nope elite -code looks solid
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[13:12:38] * ChanServ sets mode: +h squishie
[13:12:56] <EliteAceman[DD]> I tried loging with my cell phone, it doesnt like the images
[13:12:57] <12~adminHere> hm..shorter battles. maybe i will try a short version. you set in preferences which is used
[13:13:20] <12~adminHere> i could theoretically do same w/ images, but thats hard
[13:13:32] <12~adminHere> and on the mobile and image - did images ever work? ie just hte dice, etc?
[13:13:34] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> can i show u a smaller version next week
[13:13:39] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> and see what u think
[13:13:42] <12~adminHere> know what images phones accept? jpg, gif?
[13:13:52] <JS> well
[13:13:55] <EliteAceman[DD]> not sure
[13:14:01] <JS> my mobile wants me to download some programme
[13:14:04] <12~adminHere> sgc - i have to base it on whats in the DB ... and i'd have to totally make a new one, not alter old one.
[13:14:06] <JS> which will take forever
[13:14:08] <EliteAceman[DD]> which is why i suggested just a text version
[13:14:39] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> :o
[13:14:49] <12~adminHere> its not too hard -
[13:14:56] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> mine was just going to be words
[13:14:57] <EliteAceman[DD]> grrrr cant these people see im busy? brb i have to tell clients to go away
[13:15:03] <12~adminHere> lol
[13:15:08] <EliteAceman[DD]> ok
[13:15:09] <EliteAceman[DD]> ;-)
[13:15:25] <12~adminHere> sgc - i get the concept. can do it. again just sitting down and doing it :)
[13:15:38] <EliteAceman[DD]> can we make a device that we can interface inter our brains so we can login anywhere?
[13:16:05] <12~adminHere> lol - elite - watch "2057 - the body"
[13:16:09] <JS> no elite
[13:16:25] <12~adminHere> its a futurist doing the city/the body/the world in the year 2057
[13:16:26] <JS> its bad enough how much time i spend on this thing
[13:16:27] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> admin here i do it for u :p
[13:16:38] <EliteAceman[DD]> i keep staying up to till 4am and having to wake up at 7am
[13:16:51] <12~adminHere> ok - last call on comments...
[13:16:59] <JS> i cant build a defence
[13:17:01] <JS> :(
[13:17:04] <EliteAceman[DD]> We need a way to kill AC
[13:17:05] <JS> keeps getting massed
[13:17:11] <07Goodie> lol
[13:17:18] <EliteAceman[DD]> Everyone has trillion AC's
[13:17:20] <12~adminHere> js - you must be unlikable ;) .. .elite - its ont he list
[13:17:30] <07Goodie> hmmm
[13:17:31] <JS> no im likable
[13:17:33] <JS> i have friends
[13:17:35] <JS> i think
[13:17:37] <12~adminHere> that mass you?
[13:17:40] <JS> who here is not my friend
[13:17:42] <EliteAceman[DD]> are you aware of the COP CIA war?
[13:17:44] <07Goodie> lol
[13:17:47] <JS> lol
[13:17:50] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> js isnt in it
[13:17:55] <JS> yeah
[13:17:56] <07Goodie> JS is just in on the CIA side of things
[13:17:56] <12~adminHere> i knew of a war...which one, who is in what group, no
[13:17:58] <EliteAceman[DD]> its 6 alliances vs 37
[13:18:03] <07Goodie> lol
[13:18:04] <JS> no first war i havent been massed haha
[13:18:04] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> this is what i call civilian casualties
[13:18:04] <12~adminHere> lol
[13:18:07] <07Goodie> CoP is omega ect
[13:18:13] <07Goodie> CIA is like, everyone else
[13:18:14] <EliteAceman[DD]> adminHere would you like an invite to the dirty dozen?
[13:18:18] <12~adminHere> no :)
[13:18:21] <EliteAceman[DD]> i can send one right now!
[13:18:21] <07Goodie> and blame CoP, they came up with both names
[13:18:26] <12~adminHere> i must stay away from politics
[13:18:31] <07Goodie> lol
[13:18:35] <JS> join the hive
[13:18:36] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> lol good idea
[13:18:36] <07Goodie> politics ftl
[13:18:39] <JS> we arent in the war
[13:18:40] <JS> lol
[13:18:43] <12~adminHere> "its best that you do not know" is my motto
[13:18:55] <07Goodie> so much easyier to just mass everyone and forget politics
[13:18:57] <JS> yeah
[13:19:02] <JS> except when you wake up
[13:19:04] <JS> and you have nothing
[13:19:08] <JS> and people hit you
[13:19:08] <12~adminHere> even without knowing any politics, i still get accused of bias to one side or the other (or both)
[13:19:10] <EliteAceman[DD]> You know in the alliance page
[13:19:13] <JS> and then you go i didnt know haha
[13:19:14] <JS> yeah
[13:19:17] <EliteAceman[DD]> where you declare war on alliance
[13:19:19] <07Goodie> hmm
[13:19:21] <07Goodie> actualy
[13:19:28] <07Goodie> next week, depending on what happens this week
[13:19:35] <07Goodie> i may bring up the bias issue
[13:19:35] <10%squishie> btw adminHere... i like this Q wave so far :) looks more exciting than the last :)
[13:19:42] <07Goodie> although not of you adminHere, rather gamemod
[13:19:45] <EliteAceman[DD]> most people need a short cut to "declare war on omega dirty dozen and Dark Domium"
[13:19:45] <07Goodie> but i shall see
[13:19:53] <12~adminHere> gamemod is being replaced this weekend
[13:19:59] <10%squishie> lol EliteAceman[DD]
[13:19:59] <JS> ohhh
[13:20:00] <10%squishie> he is?
[13:20:01] <12~adminHere> a new one is coming here to train up
[13:20:03] <10%squishie> :o
[13:20:05] <07Goodie> :O!
[13:20:06] <07Goodie> sweet
[13:20:07] <EliteAceman[DD]> How about i reture from the game
[13:20:10] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> lol
[13:20:10] <EliteAceman[DD]> and become game mod
[13:20:12] <EliteAceman[DD]> :-)
[13:20:12] <07Goodie> i was going to complain about him
[13:20:13] <07Goodie> =/
[13:20:15] <10%squishie> no EliteAceman[DD]
[13:20:16] <JS> what is gamemods job exactly
[13:20:17] <12~adminHere> already got the spot filled :)
[13:20:20] <JS> bar banning people
[13:20:21] <07Goodie> hmmm
[13:20:24] <07Goodie> anyone i might know?
[13:20:25] <07Goodie> >_>
[13:20:26] <07Goodie> <_<
[13:20:28] <EliteAceman[DD]> since i have 20 hours of freetime a day to spend on it
[13:20:31] <12~adminHere> js - basicly cop (not c.o.p.) but a policeman
[13:20:48] <JS> is he a player or somone you know
[13:20:48] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> so hes a real cop
[13:20:56] <EliteAceman[DD]> How about an option to make to make Treaty's with other alliances
[13:21:02] <12~adminHere> his name is mark. likely you do not know him. and no hes not a real cop :) he's a unix admin & an ACT tech specialist
[13:21:07] <07Goodie> hmmm
[13:21:10] <12~adminHere> alliances wait till alliance update
[13:21:18] <07Goodie> no one i know :(
[13:21:25] <EliteAceman[DD]> A solid bond that forhibits alliances members to hit another alliance without alliance leaders lifting the treaty
[13:21:31] <07Goodie> has he ever played sgw before?
[13:21:43] <12~adminHere> yes goodie, but not a 'real' player
[13:21:45] <07Goodie> or even heard of sgw before you got him to do the job? :P
[13:21:47] <07Goodie> real?
[13:21:54] <07Goodie> as in, he has an account but never touched it? :P
[13:21:57] <12~adminHere> ie top rank, politic'd, etc
[13:22:02] <EliteAceman[DD]> You need a real player that knows whats going on
[13:22:05] <12~adminHere> he is a 'for fun' player
[13:22:13] <JS> haha
[13:22:16] <12~adminHere> 'real' players have too much bias
[13:22:18] <07Goodie> im for fun, atm anyway
[13:22:26] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> im quoting admin on that
[13:22:31] <07Goodie> lol
[13:22:31] <JS> the problem with for fun gamemods
[13:22:36] <07Goodie> i have my quote from adminHere
[13:22:38] <07Goodie> for my sig
[13:22:41] <12~adminHere> lol.
[13:22:46] <EliteAceman[DD]> so adminHere what account should i send your Dirty Dozen invite to?
[13:22:49] <07Goodie> to replace the old one
[13:22:54] <JS> is that in order to ensure that everyone could have fun, he would have to ban the top accounts lol
[13:23:22] <07Goodie> anyway
[13:23:32] <12~adminHere> ok. closing this off :)
[13:23:33] <07Goodie> adminHere, can we know who gamemod used to be when he played sgw?
[13:23:36] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> ok cya
[13:23:49] <12~adminHere> thanks everyone for contributing. as always, very useful and even some fun :)
[13:23:56] <07Goodie> ceya adminHere
[13:23:59] <EliteAceman[DD]> Im tired of the game :-) but i cant leave
[13:24:00] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> wait answer the question
[13:24:04] <07Goodie> dont code to much over the next week
[13:24:08] <07Goodie> and have some fun, and family time
[13:24:19] <JS> its patricks weekend
[13:24:22] <JS> im getting pasted
[13:24:24] <12~adminHere> till next week or on the forums in the meantime :)and whic Q sgc?
[13:24:40] <EliteAceman[DD]> The one about the DD invite?
[13:24:40] <JS> cya
[13:24:45] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> the one goodie ask
[13:24:51] <07Goodie> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
[13:24:53] <07Goodie> rm
[13:24:53] <12~adminHere> answer: no :)
[13:24:54] <JS> supposed to be at home with the missus now
[13:24:55] <[SGC_ReplicAtors]> who where the prevous gamemods
[13:24:55] <07Goodie> erm
[13:24:58] <JS> still havetn finished work
[13:25:04] <07Goodie> </3 mirc copying
[13:25:15] <07Goodie> lol
[13:25:27] <07Goodie> JS, does sitting in on admin talks count as work? :P
[13:25:35] <JS> no lol
[13:25:42] <12~adminHere> lol.. alight - admin has left the building...
[13:25:43] <JS> hence why my boss and girlfriend goes spare
[13:25:44] <JS> haha
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:10 pm
by Robe
A good start to probity.

Well done.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:07 am
by ~Krys~
anyone want to make a summary of it

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:52 am
by J.S.
[12:41:08] <JS> I was thinking a transcript of these meetings would be nice
[12:41:12] <JS> cool what kind?
[12:41:13] <07Goodie> hmm
[12:41:21] <07Goodie> i might be able to do that JS


And erm if they had their own section on the forum 8)

I passed this one over a few times..

But nice one goodie.. :-D

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:12 pm
by SVaRuN
I should be there...I really want a new damage meter :cry: :lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:13 pm
by Envy
I really don't like the AC killing suggestion lol :) o well more miners than lol :lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:44 pm
by Hansbrough
hmm... this is main, not ascension... if everyone wants these rules (such as AC killing), why don't they just play ascension more?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:37 am
by goodie
Taxonomist3 wrote:hmm... this is main, not ascension... if everyone wants these rules (such as AC killing), why don't they just play ascension more?


Hmm... this is a Log post, not the actual discussion... if everyone wants to discuss this (such as AC killing), why don't they turn up to the meetings? (which is where forum pays attention, not here).

J.S. wrote:
[12:41:08] <JS> I was thinking a transcript of these meetings would be nice
[12:41:12] <JS> cool what kind?
[12:41:13] <07Goodie> hmm
[12:41:21] <07Goodie> i might be able to do that JS


And erm if they had their own section on the forum 8)

I passed this one over a few times..

But nice one goodie.. :-D


Ill work on a proper summary next time, but someone else will have to do the morning meeting... i cant make that at its current time. :s

-Goodie

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:57 am
by Ston
crappy format but this is the log from the meeting in the morning.

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<adminHere> hello
<Motte> moin adminHere
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<Motte> moin Lajh
<ShaiAdmin> bah
<Lajh> hi
<Motte> moin GeneralChaos
<ShaiAdmin> what's the fake admin in here
<ShaiAdmin> taking My place
<GeneralChaos> Hey
<adminHere> motte - quantum reset set me back.. .likely next few days :)
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<Motte> np adminHere
<SGW_Guest828> is admin here
<SGW_Guest828> o yes he is
<adminHere> adminHere :)
<Blahh> hello big dady boss :D
<SGW_Guest828> day light savings
<ShaiAdmin> yeah I'm here!
<ShaiAdmin> lol
<Bazsy> hey Jason
<SGW_Guest828> screwed me over :p
<adminHere> ya - my clock is 10am but gametime still 9am :)
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<adminHere> dumb daylight saving :)
<adminHere> morning all :)
<Blahh> morning :D
<Bazsy> evening Jason:)
<Bazsy> ;)
<GeneralChaos> Morning/ Evening
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<adminHere> lol. yes
<RobinInDaHood> Afternoon admin.
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> good day. :D
<Motte> adminHere some friends of mine asked if its possible to change the officers settings
<ShaiAdmin> good day to ME too!!!
<adminHere> change how motte?
<Bazsy> so morning in the new world, and evening in the old continent:D
<Motte> the % they get
<Motte> so that each officer can set different
<adminHere> isnt that already adjustable?
<adminHere> ah .. no.
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> lol
<Psi_Kiya_Trist> each officer differant?
<ShaiAdmin> he's brought up that old one
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<adminHere> each officer is the same. it will stay that way
<ShaiAdmin> adjusting what each officer gets
<Bazsy> yeah they mean custop % for each officer
<Bazsy> custom
<ShaiAdmin> depending on their up
<Motte> yeah sorry for my crapy english
<adminHere> if you have an officer, they are worthy :) if they are not - drop them.
<Bazsy> admin: the point of that would be to get in and train newbs
<adminHere> besides - i know what custom settings would do to the cpu on turn change ;)
<Bazsy> now someone with 2b / turn income cant have a newb, since that officer would loose all naq
<adminHere> and if you want to give naq - by all means do :)
<adminHere> well - thats just the breaks ;) ... have them build def or good covert to hide it :)
<zesh[n00b_hunter]> adminHere do you mind if i pm you it is rather sensitive
<adminHere> ok
<adminHere> so - officers at different rates - official answer: no :)
<Motte> k
<adminHere> worth asking though ;)
<adminHere> any ascension players here that want to yell at me?
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> lol
<GeneralChaos> to funny
<adminHere> i'll open it up for that now ;)
<RobinInDaHood> I think they are planning a massing instead.
* Usul liked the upgrade to ascension...
<ShaiAdmin> lol
<Motte> umm wasnt loged in in ascended since a while
<adminHere> lol
<ShaiAdmin> we would be willing to accept updates
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> could the link between ascneded and main be removed? :D
<ShaiAdmin> as u know we've always wanted ppl to grow
<RobinInDaHood> Ascention updates seem reasonable after adjustments were made.
<ShaiAdmin> if the people who go into vacation mode
<ShaiAdmin> suffer the SAME bonuses as if they were descended
<Blahh> whats the point than ? :D
<ShaiAdmin> and if someone is beyond their lf limit they lost 2.5 percent per turn
<Psi_Kiya_Trist> you mean yell at you for the gap of growth yesterday?
<adminHere> vacation =50% loss. descend=100%
<Blahh> the half way is a nice compromise i think :)
<RobinInDaHood> Agree w/Blahh
<ShaiAdmin> and if they are not a 'certain' power
<adminHere> :) phew ;)
<ShaiAdmin> they should not get ascended blessing at all
<Blahh> and the limit, well that would cause imposible to upgrade
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> it can be halved
<Blahh> since you have to go over the limit to powerup stuf..
<GeneralChaos> the 50% - 100% is fair enough, i dont think its ok for someone who has only been playing a month in main, ascend and beable to do so much damage, ( or why should they catch up as fast )
<Blahh> so basicly youd want to cut the little guys progress by that :)
<GeneralChaos> if you put effort into your ascentions you can easily hold your own on there
<ShaiAdmin> little guys?
<Blahh> i cant
<Blahh> hit any powerup
<ShaiAdmin> more like ppl who ascended to get just main benefits
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> sometime like to screw with ppls efforts :p
<Blahh> without going over my max life force
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> ppl^
<Blahh> so if you say if i m over my max i loose 2.5% per turn
<Blahh> how am i to do powerups than ?
<ShaiAdmin> do them quickly
<ShaiAdmin> lol
<adminHere> ok - so back to the topic -- the ascended updates seem ok after tuning..good :) (and i am not going to penalize over LF limit..its needed...)
<Blahh> its just a point of viev, dont play ascended much
<RobinInDaHood> I would be unable to buy powerups either and I actively play ascension.
<GeneralChaos> you cant bring that in, as the guys who are at the top, would have had over the limit
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<GeneralChaos> if your going to introduce anything like that, you would have to reset Ascended
<Usul> Same here...even though I'm not high ranked
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<ShaiAdmin> or give us the option to voluntarily descend
<adminHere> in fact over LF has its own stat :)
<GeneralChaos> so that everyone is on a level playing field
<ShaiAdmin> and calculate ALL that we lost
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<Motte> wb tada [PHP]
<ShaiAdmin> let's see how they deal with 200 mill plus armies
<Motte> [SGC_ReplicAtors]*
<adminHere> answer: not adding over LF penelty ...
<adminHere> ok - ascended covered. that was much easier on me than i thought it might be ;)
<Blahh> thanks :)
<Ston> lol
<Motte> lol
<ShaiAdmin> btw mate..I'm speaking with the voice of 200 ppl
<ShaiAdmin> not myself
<Blahh> see he agrees with me over his other admin :)
<adminHere> for those not in the know - i added an update that had to do with turns. then i made a bug that stopped turns from being given, adn ppl thought that was the update :)
<Blahh> well i think i can say i m speaking for the other 200 too
<Motte> i will check the ascended update later when i am home and report in the second meeting
<ShaiAdmin> well ur 200 doesn't count
<ShaiAdmin> cos they don't do crap all in ascension
<Blahh> equality ? :D
<adminHere> shai - not sure what your question/comment/suggestion is... (or the 200 people's suggestion)
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> lol
<Blahh> look mate. its not the fact that descension would be harder
<Blahh> but simple a new guy ascending
<Blahh> cant do **Filtered** than as he cant go over the limit
<ShaiAdmin> the CoP are willing to put all their accounts into vacation mode
<RobinInDaHood> Killing the turn counter was a fun diversion. :) Free vacation mode without the % loss.
<Blahh> ergo his lvls will always stay low
<Blahh> why would they go on vac ?
<adminHere> blahh - i dont get what you're referring to. shai - why why would cop vacation?
<GeneralChaos> Im all for people being equal, but they have to know when they ascend that there are stronger guys out there, as in all games, helping them catchup faster is ok, but come on, its hardly fair to the guys who have put trillions of naq and millions of UU into ascending
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<ShaiAdmin> it would close ascension down
<ShaiAdmin> we are the only ones taking it seriously
<Usul> Do it then Shaitan...see if the rest of us care
<GeneralChaos> when all they have to do now is take it easy ascend and being given a nice big hand
<Blahh> adminHere i was talking to ShaiAdmin at that point :)
<adminHere> ok. ppl are confusing me.
<Blahh> ShaiAdmin well i bet that after that, otlher ppl would start to play it :)
<ShaiAdmin> lol how long do u think that would be
<ShaiAdmin> without the best players playing it
<Blahh> well in a year 2 3 other ppl would become the best :)
<RobinInDaHood> Well, I'd play ascension regardless. Would you really want to lose your 50% bonus as a protest?
<Blahh> time is a different concept for evry1 :)
<adminHere> let me see if i can close this topic off with a simple question to shai/blahh/anyone: IS THE UDPATE, AS IT STANDS, ACCEPTABLE? OR IS THERE A PROBLEM (AND IF SO, WHAT?)
<Blahh> Yeah its k as far as i we seen it, also heard good things from alot of ppl :)
<adminHere> or am i missing somehting else entirely?
<ShaiAdmin> well we should all get equal turns
* [PHP] sighs
<Blahh> adminHere can i take a private question to you about toc so i dont bug the general public that doesnt want to know ;)?
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> u can drop power and get more turns
<adminHere> k blahh
<Blahh> thanks
<ShaiAdmin> lol my influence is over 800 bill
<ShaiAdmin> I couldn't drop power if I wanted to
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> not my problem
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> it was a suggestion
<adminHere> the extra turns really are for the newbies... wont affect inactives. and if ppl use their turns, ultimately they will grow, and lose them...
<adminHere> i cannot really see a big problem. maybe if i changed at each 10 rank, but not at 800
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<ShaiAdmin> and rank mod should go
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Session Close: Sun Jan 14 18:23:38 2007

Session Start: Sun Jan 14 18:24:31 2007
Session Ident: #theplace
* Now talking in #theplace
* Topic is 'stargatewars ingame Admin Channel. abusive comments or language will be punished. homer and Rienna are the Devil's assistants, listen to them. Next meeting times: 3 PM game time (roughly 13 minutes from now)'
* Set by Rienna on Wed Mar 07 23:48:18
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> shouldnt they get their "natural" bonus back
<ShaiAdmin> lf
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> eg. 25% covert for replicators etc
<ShaiAdmin> killy for instance had over 600k life force
<ShaiAdmin> why did it max out at 152k exactly for 2 different players?
<adminHere> strikenoob - they can become a normal race if they wish. but as is they are ascended, and rely on ascended being for their bonus.
<ShaiAdmin> despite our attack powers, rank
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<ShaiAdmin> rank mods being different
<adminHere> the max hit on personal ascend attack is 50% of the LF reserve per hit
<ShaiAdmin> shouldn' it be on total
<ShaiAdmin> so what if someone has 1 mill lf
<adminHere> if the 50% of lf reserve was the same, then i guess limit would be too
<ShaiAdmin> and 200k reserve
<adminHere> you'll do 100k at a time
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<ShaiAdmin> that would take ages
<Blahh> not necesary
<Blahh> it generates slower..
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> just give ETL the button to descend people in 1 hit please
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> he wont be happy before that
<Motte> lol
<RobinInDaHood> rofl
<Blahh> lol
<ShaiAdmin> sure
<ShaiAdmin> lets pit ALL our power against each other
<ShaiAdmin> that would be more fun
<ShaiAdmin> lol
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> ...
<adminHere> on the difficulty of descending someone - i am going to move slow on making it any easier ... it was never meant to be easy. if it needs adjusting, i can do it slowly over time :)
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> it needs to be harder
<adminHere> and for those that bnaked up a ton of LF - thats an advantage they have
<ShaiAdmin> not meant to be easy for those who PLAY the game
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> jesus descending who thought of that
<adminHere> smart? unlikely since they could have spent it, but ...
<ShaiAdmin> I can understand that
<ShaiAdmin> but if a noob ascends for main bonuses
<ShaiAdmin> he should be as easily descended
<RobinInDaHood> define "noob", please
<adminHere> over time, he is :) but he has a 'shell' that has to be broken first
<RobinInDaHood> A certain amount of APP?
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> anyboyd not in cop "p
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> :p
<adminHere> descension was always supposed to require a steady effort, over time.
<ShaiAdmin> yeah but look at it like this
<adminHere> not just big vs. small
<ShaiAdmin> if we did what they did
<RobinInDaHood> Well, I am curious about what constitues a nooby ascension and a worthy one.
<ShaiAdmin> we'd have 200 mill plus armies in main
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> who cares
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> and no you wouldnt
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> if you could you would allready have it.
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<ShaiAdmin> lmao
<ShaiAdmin> u know how much we ascend with
<ShaiAdmin> constantly buying huge ups
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> whos we?
<ston> ill pay 6 mil enxt time :/
<ShaiAdmin> rebuying spy levels
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> why do you call yourself we?
<adminHere> some ppl just dont have the resources (never did) but ascended. they did not necessarily 'hold back' just were smaller. there is no way to distinguish one from the other
<Motte> i payed 3mil units for my last ascension
<RobinInDaHood> My ascension was smallish, but I earned it.
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> is that worthy?
<ston> atm not and thats the point
<ShaiAdmin> I payed over 10 easily in units alone
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> i payed like 500k for my 6 ascensions lol :)
<Motte> dunno was bored
<Motte> and drunk
<GeneralChaos> I agree with that they didnt hold back, but they need to know that when they ascend its not an easy ride on the other side,
<RobinInDaHood> I lost half my army size on ascension which was huge at the time.
<GeneralChaos> You have a choice to ascend, if you do, take the risks that come with it
<ShaiAdmin> exactly
<Motte> yep
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> if you dont ascend you can stop playing :)
<adminHere> ok - on ascension. for now, the max of 1/2 LF reserve stays; if someone really wants to descend another (even with millions of LF) it can be done, in time (and then gets easier to keep re-descending); the turns for 800+ i will leave for now, but can revisit in a week or so to see how its actually working.
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> because you dont stand a chance ^_^
<ShaiAdmin> in time anything can be done
<ShaiAdmin> but simply we'll need turns
<ShaiAdmin> I don't mind the current state
<ShaiAdmin> introducing a turns market would be good
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> no.
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> That would be bad.
<ShaiAdmin> are u scared?
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> :)
<ShaiAdmin> lol
<adminHere> alright. topic shift. next topic?
<RobinInDaHood> no, the limit on turns is what prevents ascension from becoming another main.
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> No i just hate the fact that you get most things you want :)
<ShaiAdmin> yes
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> "speaking in the name of 200"
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> lmao. :)
<ston> while being at ascension, did you considered deleting asc accounts that are not linked to main ones?
<ShaiAdmin> I would ask u to implement new anti cheating software at once
<RobinInDaHood> Agreed, too many multi accounts in the game.
<GeneralChaos> Yes i agree espically for Chaosgate
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> whats that have to do with ascended?
<RobinInDaHood> Admin called for next topic.
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> thats a new topic
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> oh ok :)
<ShaiAdmin> it would be good to delete accounts whose email accounts have been matched to others before
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> or u can go overboard
<RobinInDaHood> New email accounts are too easy to get. That wouldn't prevent multis.
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> and make it a 1 account to 1 IP thingy
<adminHere> the new game admin (the dude in charge of hunting cheaters) is coming here for a orientation this weekend....
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> i doubt you can create 2 acounts with 1 mail?
<RobinInDaHood> @sgc, that would kill college kids who use school routers.
<Bazsy> admin: what do you mean by here?
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> nvm bad idea
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> or what did you mean by <ShaiAdmin> it would be good to delete accounts whose email accounts have been matched to others before
<adminHere> so on cheaters i will defer for a week, so that we have this weekend to establish the methodology. and tools.
<adminHere> here = my house.
<ShaiAdmin> no what I meant robin is that say someone has mailto:jerovsik@msn.com ...on say id 1010101..and a few months later id 101010 has a different email and that old mail is on id 12020202
<RobinInDaHood> Ahh, I see. That might catch some.
<adminHere> lol - sgc - all of some countries have 1 IP :)
<Bazsy> oh
<Bazsy> okay
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> lol ya after RIDH said college
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> bad idea
<adminHere> ok - cheaters topic delayed a week ... next ? :)
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> what if someone sells acc and later on decides to create a new one? o.O
<Bazsy> that would prevent selling acc and starting a new
<Bazsy> which is ok
<zesh[n00b_hunter]> lol jerosik
<Strike[n00b_hunter]> ok nvm all that im all for anti-cheating updates just dont make anything silly lol
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<Blahh> lol
<Shaitan> when is the marketi n quantum opening?
<adminHere> the market starts 6days after era start
<Shaitan> apparently someone's already used it
<Bazsy> Strike[n00b_hunter]: if someone sells an acc he should quit, or buy an acc if he wants to come back...
<adminHere> me
<Shaitan> ah
<Shaitan> u bought miners?
<Shaitan> u damned cheat!! lmao
<adminHere> i was testing it :) and yes turns for miners
<adminHere> quantum this era should be very interesting, as its a totally new strategy set
<Shaitan> yeah it's good
<Shaitan> although I'd suggest keep raiding very controlled
<Usul> It's got me playing for the first time in months...
<Shaitan> u don't want an endgame where alliance members quit
<Shaitan> and allow their friends to raid them
<Shaitan> is there a bug that different races getting different UP bonuses?
<adminHere> well - i wonder how they'd keep the UU until then?
<Shaitan> plenty ofways
<Shaitan> big defences
<adminHere> and no - UP should be UP
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<adminHere> is there one race that seems to get more/less?
<Shaitan> nah was reading on the forums
<Shaitan> that different races were getting different amounts
<Shaitan> not BASE UP
<Shaitan> total up
<Shaitan> even though both had same base up
<Shaitan> no commander
<Shaitan> and such
<Bazsy> SS?
<Shaitan> I did say BASE UP the same
<Motte> adminHere just a short question and just want a short answer: is it possible to get a race change on ascend?
<adminHere> shaitan - have 2 IDs ? i can verify
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<adminHere> motte - not yet.
<Motte> k
<Shaitan> I'll get them to contact you
<adminHere> or post in forum or such...
<RobinInDaHood> adminHere: Would you be interested accepting enhancements for the game where the code was already written for you?
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> negative losses in combat logs
<adminHere> robin - yes :) but that would be hard if you dont' know the code/db
<Shaitan> a suggestion
<Shaitan> remove racial bonuses in quantum except for replis
<Shaitan> who are always screwed
<adminHere> sgc - is it isolated, or specific issues cause it, or ?
<adminHere> lol shaitan.
<adminHere> they get 35% -rest get 25
<Shaitan> u know what I mean
<Shaitan> when u attack
<Shaitan> asgard get holograms
<Shaitan> etc etc
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> the negative losses are happening to ppl with mercs
<adminHere> hmm...
<Shaitan> poor replis are screwed
<RobinInDaHood> @adminHere Would nearly-complete-pseudo-code be helpful?
<adminHere> so you want reply to have a better bonus?
<Shaitan> covert means damnall mate
<Bazsy> Repli: i will cover that
<Shaitan> nah I think remove our bonuses
<Bazsy> later...
<Bazsy> dont worry
<Shaitan> asgard
<Motte> mercs. i dont like mercs at least not the untrained ones. coz they are kinda useless
<Shaitan> goa'uld
<Shaitan> and tauri
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<Shaitan> andleave the repli's
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<adminHere> robin - maybe. really depends on what it is, and how much integration is needed. has to be an accepted enhancement as well before it goes in of course ;)
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> hey robin its ur naq and raid counter?
<RobinInDaHood> @adminHere http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/vie ... hp?t=65378, submitted for your humble review.
<RobinInDaHood> @sgc, yes, I think it would be a great enhancement.
<Blahh> ah crap
<adminHere> ok robin-wrote down the topic. will check it later
<Shaitan> and seriously waves 1 and 2 should have gotten more backdated G and R
<Shaitan> lol
<Blahh> Shaitan can you ask repli to get of my back at least while i talk to you :D
<Shaitan> he's in here
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> what
<Blahh> bloody where :D
<Shaitan> above u
<Motte> adminHere will there be any use for untrained mercs besides of gaining APP on ascension?
<Shaitan> ...hmmm didn't mean it that way
<Shaitan> lol
<Blahh> not that repli the repli thats also know to his friends as Jake :)
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<Shaitan> he's not on msn
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<Blahh> aha k :D
<Blahh> he realy likes me for some unknown reason
<Blahh> but ok i m a likable person i think :)
<adminHere> motte - you can use untrained merc as a 35% commission unlimited bank
<RobinInDaHood> @adminHere Good updates on the merc screen.
<adminHere> thank you :)
<adminHere> anyone use the personal shield on Q yet?
<ston> sgw merc wars
<RobinInDaHood> Is it called a "groin cup"?
<adminHere> mercs in Q and main should be less of an issue, than they used to, with enforced limits
<adminHere> btw -they negative losses on battle logs - was that in Q ?
<RobinInDaHood> Main
<Motte> yeah
<Bazsy> Jason
<RobinInDaHood> It seems to happen when you already have negative mercs, from what I've read.
<Bazsy> i know that issue
<Bazsy> will tell you later...
<Bazsy> dont worry
<Motte> and also when you train UU on main there are sometimes -1 UU
<Bazsy> Motte: posted that too....
<Bazsy> already
<Motte> kk
<adminHere> the -1 i dont mind
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> im going to go now
<[SGC_ReplicAtors]> c ya
<Bazsy> check current bugs
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<adminHere> ok
<Shaitan> btw
<Shaitan> can I buy lord core's account
<Shaitan> and give it to my 'cousin'
<adminHere> lol
<adminHere> cheat topic delayed a week :)
<Bazsy> or your 'brother'?:)
<RobinInDaHood> rofl@admin
<Shaitan> I'll name him
<Shaitan> Exit the Lion
<Shaitan> lol
<Bazsy> i thought you are joking:)
<Psi_Kiya_Trist> i remember the -7 when there was no miners >_>
<Psi_Kiya_Trist> that was a fun moment...
<adminHere> put in on cheat forum - we'll be using that this weekend :)
<Motte> yeah and the -1 message
<adminHere> ok - 5 mins or so left. nothing so far on main? anyone?
<Bazsy> admin: there are some very good readings:D lol
<Psi_Kiya_Trist> i thought there was already an "exit the lion"
<zesh[n00b_hunter]> lol
<Motte> lol
<Usul> Well...I had a crazy Idea for main...
<Usul> but I don't think it's too popular with the powerful players...
<Bazsy> Usul: as you say... its crazy
<Shaitan> damn I'll then have acces to two powerful ascended accounts
<Shaitan> errr...I meant my COUSIN and me
<Usul> Bazy: sometimes crazy is good...
<Bazsy> i will buy an acc for my brother than... and one for my GF...
<Motte> i would say we need a Troll86 as special focre to demoral the enemys troops
<RobinInDaHood> @adminHere: The timeout in main seems to be odd. Can you provide details on when the session times out?
<Shaitan> on the plus side
<adminHere> it is 3hours be code
<Shaitan> you've done something clever with quantum
<adminHere> or i think 30 mins on apache if no activity
<RobinInDaHood> 3 hours of inactivity before logoff?
<adminHere> robin - no 3 hours from logon
<Shaitan> I would have suggested miners being untrainable until the middle of the game
<Shaitan> but we can work around it
<adminHere> :)
<Shaitan> we need an official hall of fame page
<adminHere> what is the issue you're having robin?
<adminHere> shaitan - for main?
<Shaitan> well it covers all
<Shaitan> last year we had 10
<Shaitan> this year 10 DIFFERENT
<Shaitan> so everyyear 10 new ppl added
<RobinInDaHood> @admin The timeout seems to happen randomly during the 30 minute turn. I keep SGW open all day in a window and it feels like I'm constantly relogging even though I'm active nearly every turn.
<adminHere> can we use the wiki for that? i am anxious to get some mileage on that :)
<adminHere> i can then link it ingame or inforum
<adminHere> robin - might be apache with a low inactivity limit. i'll check what that limit is...might even be 15mins or somehting
<Shaitan> can I have overall control of the wiki..and I'll delegate
<RobinInDaHood> @admin Thank you.
<Shaitan> b/c the current guys are useless
* Usul is going to link to his idea anyway...just so it can be looked at at adminhere's leisure...
<Usul> http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/vie ... sc&start=0
<adminHere> shaitan - i will OK that if you can work with whitey :)
<RobinInDaHood> lol
<ston> admin: dont you think the negative naq when 2 ppl farm at the same time on turns start is a way to exploit the game getting naq?
<Bazsy> ocuh:D
<ston> at least if thats being done on purpose..
<adminHere> ston - did not know that happened.
<ston> regulary
<Bazsy> yeah
<Bazsy> and on Q too
<RobinInDaHood> That could be addressed with a current MySql implementation and elimination of dirty reads during an update.
<Motte> yep
<adminHere> ok - will add a 'reget user' to the attack :) that should stop it
<adminHere> it has to do with PHP memory of user
<RobinInDaHood> Great.
<adminHere> i just need to either reget user, or add a max in the sql
<Shaitan> u know the graphics update to main
<Shaitan> would be useful in quantum
<Shaitan> cos u can't tell who's on ppt
<Bazsy> oh, when will it happen?
<Bazsy> oh not that...
<adminHere> yes shai...i will see about adding to Q after i add a prefs option to turn it off :)
<Bazsy> admin: you were talkin bout new SGW pictures
<adminHere> and i will do that by next meeting (the max sql check)
<Bazsy> there was even a contest
<adminHere> the 'shortcuts'
<Bazsy> nothin happened since than
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<adminHere> nothing happened on what?
<Bazsy> the banner contest
<Bazsy> last thing you posted is you will create a page for voting... if someone collects all the links
<Bazsy> Zeratul did
<adminHere> i am putting a page together for banner contest voting. its not forgotten
<Bazsy> that was 3 - 4 weeks ago
<Bazsy> okay just thought you forget
<adminHere> if you look at the post with the links, i have a comment on there on how far i've got :)
<Bazsy> hmm
<Bazsy> will check:)
<adminHere> i wanted to have that done by today, but i put a lot into quantum changes
<adminHere> and it got bumped :(
<RobinInDaHood> Understood, busy man.
<Bazsy> oh LOL
<ston> another issue last minute: could you consider cmaking the naq generating process a bit more random?
<adminHere> if i was a juggler, i'd be stepping on a pile of balls :)
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<RobinInDaHood> Someone please censor admin.
<RobinInDaHood> ;)
<adminHere> ston - you mean not on a turn?
<ston> well +-2 mins
<adminHere> lol
<Bazsy> admin: you should leave out sleep like me:d
<Bazsy> lol
<ston> so noone can aim for it
<adminHere> ah - i cannot. its all at once.
<ston> at turns change
<adminHere> i could change the turn clock to not match the actual turn change :)
<ston> because sometimes its impossible to bank before you get farmed
<adminHere> but doing some at a time - no
<Shaitan> how aobut it all goes into alliance banks
<Shaitan> lol
<adminHere> lol
<adminHere> ok - time called :) - any last comments?
<RobinInDaHood> Or direct transfers to the following ID: 75697
<ston> when will you be back again? ive got plenty of questions left :)
<RobinInDaHood> @admin Thank you for your time.
<adminHere> going once... (back at 3pm gametime)
<Motte> i liked the ida of the alliance banks suggested on forums
<ston> ok thanks a lot
<adminHere> going twice (alliance updates are planned. but not this week)
<RobinInDaHood> heh...Bye admin.
<Motte> laters adminHere, thanks for beeing here and thanks for all the fun we got and will get in future
<Blahh> ow sorry
<Blahh> bye bye admin, thans for the help :)
<adminHere> ok - thanks again everyone... as always, i got a lot of good input :)
<Usul> Have a nice day admin, (and don't forget to read my suggestion...lol)
<Motte> see you at that second meeting
<Motte> :P
<Bazsy> and you dont even know what i have:d
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<Psi_Kiya_Trist> hehe... i can imagine what bazsy has >_>
<Bazsy> 2 pages:D
<adminHere> going thrice (will do usul) ... and gone :)
<Psi_Kiya_Trist> mmm, quite
<adminHere> till next time.....
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:35 am
by Hansbrough
goodie wrote:
Taxonomist3 wrote:hmm... this is main, not ascension... if everyone wants these rules (such as AC killing), why don't they just play ascension more?


Hmm... this is a Log post, not the actual discussion... if everyone wants to discuss this (such as AC killing), why don't they turn up to the meetings? (which is where forum pays attention, not here).



I apologize if this is going to sound harsh, however, I cannot think of a nice way of saying it.

unfortunately the times of the meetings are terrible for me, showing up for a meeting with admin would be great but I cannot. rienna knows this. I'm at work during the first session and in transit home during the second session. Furthermore, why should I have to attend a meeting to keep main from becoming more like ascension?

Again sorry for sounding disrespectful and combative, I really don't mean, but it is how I feel about the game.

Taxo

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:15 pm
by Wes-Janson
[13:19:53] <12~adminHere> gamemod is being replaced this weekend


Will the new one actualy do something about cheaters ?


And directed at Fourm: Will you actualy work more to sttreamline the game instead of wasting time with updates to 'ballance' it that totaly unballance it, and otherwise just plain suck (refer update anyone ?)

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:33 pm
by goodie
Taxonomist3 wrote:
goodie wrote:
Taxonomist3 wrote:hmm... this is main, not ascension... if everyone wants these rules (such as AC killing), why don't they just play ascension more?


Hmm... this is a Log post, not the actual discussion... if everyone wants to discuss this (such as AC killing), why don't they turn up to the meetings? (which is where forum pays attention, not here).



I apologize if this is going to sound harsh, however, I cannot think of a nice way of saying it.

unfortunately the times of the meetings are terrible for me, showing up for a meeting with admin would be great but I cannot. rienna knows this. I'm at work during the first session and in transit home during the second session. Furthermore, why should I have to attend a meeting to keep main from becoming more like ascension?

Again sorry for sounding disrespectful and combative, I really don't mean, but it is how I feel about the game.

Taxo


The first meeting is at 5am for me.... the second one 1pm... which held on the proper day I'm sitting having lunch at uni. (as is shown in the logs... I'm surprised when i get on and see admin there)

Wes-Janson wrote:[13:19:53] <12~adminHere> gamemod is being replaced this weekend


Will the new one actualy do something about cheaters ?


And directed at Fourm: Will you actualy work more to sttreamline the game instead of wasting time with updates to 'ballance' it that totaly unballance it, and otherwise just plain suck (refer update anyone ?)


I would assume so, and hope so.... poor guy he has a huge job ahead of him.... the old gamemod(s?) did a fairly bad job.... except against anti cop/ga players it seems....)

-Goodie

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm
by Hansbrough
goodie wrote:
Taxonomist3 wrote:
goodie wrote:
Taxonomist3 wrote:hmm... this is main, not ascension... if everyone wants these rules (such as AC killing), why don't they just play ascension more?


Hmm... this is a Log post, not the actual discussion... if everyone wants to discuss this (such as AC killing), why don't they turn up to the meetings? (which is where forum pays attention, not here).



I apologize if this is going to sound harsh, however, I cannot think of a nice way of saying it.

unfortunately the times of the meetings are terrible for me, showing up for a meeting with admin would be great but I cannot. rienna knows this. I'm at work during the first session and in transit home during the second session. Furthermore, why should I have to attend a meeting to keep main from becoming more like ascension?

Again sorry for sounding disrespectful and combative, I really don't mean, but it is how I feel about the game.

Taxo


The first meeting is at 5am for me.... the second one 1pm... which held on the proper day I'm sitting having lunch at uni. (as is shown in the logs... I'm surprised when i get on and see admin there)

your point is? it doesn't change the fact that making a meeting is a distinct impossibility for me.

goodie wrote:
Wes-Janson wrote:[13:19:53] <12~adminHere> gamemod is being replaced this weekend


Will the new one actualy do something about cheaters ?


And directed at Fourm: Will you actualy work more to sttreamline the game instead of wasting time with updates to 'ballance' it that totaly unballance it, and otherwise just plain suck (refer update anyone ?)


I would assume so, and hope so.... poor guy he has a huge job ahead of him.... the old gamemod(s?) did a fairly bad job.... except against anti cop/ga players it seems....)

-Goodie

Prove it! This hardly seems impartial and professional thing to say! I would go on with this, but honestly I'm just going to report you forum admins for spreading lies like this!

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:00 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
goodie isn't even a mod here :-p

a fact, i'm sure he's glad of.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:01 pm
by Hansbrough
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:goodie isn't even a mod here :-p

a fact, i'm sure he's glad of.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

still doesn't change the fact he's spreaing mis-truths!