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how many lifers u think i will need to accend?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:34 am
by david
how many lifers u think i will need to accend?
i was gunna get 1 million.
but i just dont no
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:36 am
by Dragonians
i would suggest way more than 1 mill
currently i have close to 3mill and i am still not willing to ascend, but it all comes down to wether u are wanting quick ascensions or if u going to work on ur ascended account
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:39 am
by david
well how much defence u got?
and do u get attacked alot or are u on ppt
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:46 am
by DaDigi
.. Moved to Newbie / FAQ
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:45 am
by Cherry Blossom
It really depends on various factors.
Do you want a strong ascended account?
Do you want to ascend quickly?
Do you have help from other players, or are you on your own?
Do you farm/raid alot?
If you want a strong ascended account, you'll need more lifers, because you will be leaving behind ALOT, and you'll need to rebuild it quickly, so you can repeat the process(leaving behind alot, like troops, big U.P, Covert levels etc, gives big boosts to your ascended account).
Quick ascentions means minimal "leftovers". As little troops, covert levels, mothership weapons/shields, small U.P as possible(and therefore minimal losses for your next ascention). However, you won't need as many lifers, because you simply won't be buying much after ascention.
Big CO income = less lifers for you required. You'll struggle with bank space though. If you have a generous CO, they might help you out with naq, and therefore you'll need less lifers/miners(I wouldn't recommend this though, as it's better to have a decent income of your own).
If you farm/raid alot, you can sell the proceeds for naq, so lifers are less of a problem. Your choice though!
As you can see there is a lot to think about. The most important though is how powerful do you want your ascended account to be!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:27 am
by Lore
And remember you can never have "too much" stuff before ascending.
For me I waited till I had all the resources needed to do 2 ascentions before I did my first one. The first ascention is expensive as the price of weapondry increases dramaticly and you have no unique tech. The ascended blessing kicks in on the second ascention.
Still your call and mostly depends on if your actually going to play the ascended server.
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:57 am
by Ergon
Yea I was going to ascend as soon as i can buy I thought about the long run...so try to build ur acount up to like 5 mil...and plan ahead..eg have enough UU and naq to get a resonable def at the beggining.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:33 am
by david
well i am gunna aim high and try to get income of 500mil a turn
current unit production 30k
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:46 am
by Tok`ra
david wrote:well i am gunna aim high and try to get income of 500mil a turn
current unit production 30k
Just remember, you loose that income (well, part of it) and that UP when you ascend.
Best to get as big as possible before ascending.
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:57 am
by the_noob
Just remember, you loose that income (well, part of it)
I thought it was the opposite... don't you get a 5% income bonus!?
EDIT: oh, you should train all your normal miners into lifers before ascending, of course

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:46 am
by Tok`ra
the_noob wrote:Just remember, you loose that income (well, part of it)
I thought it was the opposite... don't you get a 5% income bonus!?
EDIT: oh, you should train all your normal miners into lifers before ascending, of course

There are also other ways.
And loosing those UU will offset the 5%.
My advise, get a trusted freind.
Save a up a LOT of naq.
Send said naq to that freind, along with all your extra UUs and ATs.
Ascend, your freind sends it back.
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:34 am
by Tivadar
actually you don´t need any lifers to ascend as far as i know ...
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:38 pm
by X Factor
Hellsing wrote:actually you don´t need any lifers to ascend as far as i know ...
true, but it helps alot to get you back on your feet. i am also going to try and accend soon too, but i only have 1.5 liffers atm

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:31 pm
by hfown
Tok`ra wrote:the_noob wrote:Just remember, you loose that income (well, part of it)
I thought it was the opposite... don't you get a 5% income bonus!?
EDIT: oh, you should train all your normal miners into lifers before ascending, of course

There are also other ways.
And loosing those UU will offset the 5%.
My advise, get a trusted freind.
Save a up a LOT of naq.
Send said naq to that freind, along with all your extra UUs and ATs.
Ascend, your freind sends it back.
....or just broker them your 200bil naq for their 999,999,999,999 UU, and they (if you dont trust them) likely couldnt accept if they wanted to...

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:31 pm
by Tezerul
I went for a straight ascension and had no breaks but only had like 300k miners when i started. which was about 2 months after I started but its alot more costly to get into G&R range these days
if you can keep up a nice defence about 1 to 2 mill should be ok