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Nox change

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:18 am
by Alabrax
Some folks would like to see Nox be less attractive. Here is my suggestion to do this.

If you are on Nox, you do not gain attack turns.


The in game reasoning for this is that the Nox do not like you preparing for war while you are using them as shelter.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:35 am
by q3utom
Or you can't attack while being on nox?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:39 am
by Alabrax
q3utom wrote:Or you can't attack while being on nox?


Too easy to exploit.

Mine makes it so Nox is actually not a good state to be in if you like to make war. And if you do want to make war... you will have to buy them another way.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:26 pm
by Dagr
Or you can't attack and you must enter a minimal amount of time to stay on. So if you agree to stay on for 2 days you can't attack for the next 2 days.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:49 pm
by q3utom
Alabrax wrote:
q3utom wrote:Or you can't attack while being on nox?


Too easy to exploit.

Mine makes it so Nox is actually not a good state to be in if you like to make war. And if you do want to make war... you will have to buy them another way.


By exploiting you mean, going on nox then jumping back on it after doing an attack? A time limit may have to be introduced then I guess. Or like you said no turns.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:49 pm
by q3utom
Alabrax wrote:
q3utom wrote:Or you can't attack while being on nox?


Too easy to exploit.

Mine makes it so Nox is actually not a good state to be in if you like to make war. And if you do want to make war... you will have to buy them another way.


By exploiting you mean, going on nox then jumping back on it after doing an attack? A time limit may have to be introduced then I guess. Or like you said no turns.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:38 pm
by Shooting Star
Well considering that Nox doesn't work, it definitely needs to be changed. Personally, I think main should be just like ascension. You can use a max of 450 attack turns against someone before you can no longer attack them until the turn change. And then Nox could reduce that number to say 225 attack turns. Let's put some strategy back in the game instead of "let's see how many turns and people it takes to mass a 3.3 trillion defense".

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:29 am
by Tanith
While I i'm not sure on the idea, this wouldn't affect those who regularly sit above 4k turns (like myself).

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:53 am
by Lord Priape
I don't get it. Why is Nox protection attractive? Nox has never saved me from a massing. All i use it for is to reduce my income so opportunity farmers get less off me when my defense is down.


Priape

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:26 am
by Thufir_Hawat
Well, it has saved me a few times, allowing me to repair my defence in the 5-10seconds.

Make it where nox is only for 24hours or so, this way inactives do not set it and abandon their accounts.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:58 am
by The Xeno
Well considering that Nox doesn't work, it definitely needs to be changed. Personally, I think main should be just like ascension. You can use a max of 450 attack turns against someone before you can no longer attack them until the turn change. And then Nox could reduce that number to say 225 attack turns. Let's put some strategy back in the game instead of "let's see how many turns and people it takes to mass a 3.3 trillion defense".

Interesting, I personally find the attack limits in ascension a terrible deal.
It virtually insures that you have to be stronger than your opponent to hurt them, whereas I have always believed that if you get enough n00bs together they should be able to take down the bigger players defense.
It helps keep things fluid, and insures a lot more expenditure of resources – which is a good thing imho.

As for the solution here: I don't think locking down AT generation would be that big of a deal. I know I make most of my AT's off the market, and would have to be on Nox a loooong time to really miss out. It would only affect n00bs.

I must also agree with the massing business. The only thing Nox does right now is annoy raiders farming inactive accounts.
I think Nox needs a complete overhaul and change in purpose before we start assigning it's cost.