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- Please read the entire post before voting - Also none of the "this just wont happen"... if its the best solution nothing is to stop it - If you don't like it because you, or a certain group of players would be getting hurt by this please post and I'll try and retype another post up that is as fair to everyone as possible -

Alright... Its clear that those who put a lot of their main server into ascended want to keep their advantage, and those who power ascended simply want a chance. What I propose would be a good compromise (please don't just think of your own account here, think of whats good for the server and for the game) is that we.

Reset ascended.

Have all APP returned to players.

Give a bonus in main to those players who did play the server well, large ascensions or simply playing well, give them on a sliding scale of 40% to 5% depending on your final rank. (For 1 year only)

Introduce Real descension. (with 30 days grace after reset)

Reduce the rank modifiers and change the damage caps on how damage is dealt in personal attacks.

Take out the superweapon (I personally like it however most people seem to hate it).

Introduce alliances... Though you tried for an individual server forum, twas not to be

I personally believe this is the fairest solution to everyone, it rewards those who ascended with lots, played ascended well, and gives those who are not strong there a chance.

There is a lot of criticism that CIA didnt play etc so should sit in their graves... imo the grave isnt too harsh, 2 weeks descension then 4 days off and after that needing to be descended again. Not harsh, if Real descention is bought in

There is also a lot of criticism that descension took too long to come out. (2 years) This gives players a chance to play with real descension, avoid it, or be descended by stronger and better players.

Ok, this is the fairest solution that I can think of, constructive criticism is good.. , I will retype it up again once I hear everyones opinions on it.. we should be trying to find a real solution to this rather than simply complaining that we should be able to descend people properly or that descension took 2 years to come out.

What say you all?

What happens to all the APP that is returned to the players?

They can then reinvest that as they choose. APP only, not invested life force. It will mean you maintain your advantage, however other people are given a chance.

you really think that will change anything if they get all their AP back I mean they will have charisma of like 120plus and that will just mean their advantage will be their anyways. I say just keep it how it is they played smart everyone laughed at them and now they are doing the laughing well everyone else is trying to catch up.

Plus main is no reset since main and ascension are connected I would assume their is no reset even though it was never stated.

Saber wrote:you really think that will change anything if they get all their AP back I mean they will have charisma of like 120plus and that will just mean their advantage will be their anyways. I say just keep it how it is they played smart everyone laughed at them and now they are doing the laughing well everyone else is trying to catch up.

Plus main is no reset since main and ascension are connected I would assume their is no reset even though it was never stated.

Well, it may, it may not, however it does give people a chance more than it is now, and it allows proper descension to be brought in without it being completely unfair to those who do not have strong accounts.

Most of the strong players in CoP complain of how there is no one to raid or spend at's on, except for descending, perhaps with this change it would be a challenge for them and allow greater rewards for winning (proper descension).

So we get absolutely nothing out of this except our ORIGINAL APP from our ascensions back? That's ridiculous. I have over 200 mllion planets now and have invested millions and millions of created LF into this game and, since it is now the only server that I play, a reset would be incredibly damaging.

Lord_Zeus wrote:They can then reinvest that as they choose. APP only, not invested life force. It will mean you maintain your advantage, however other people are given a chance.

I have a total of 1890 AP, which I have never even used. All my power in ascension is from playing the server, and I'm ranked in the top 70 currently. So why should those that played main well and ascended with huge amounts of APP be rewarded, where those that played main purely to gain access to ascended, and played ascended very well, are screwed?

This is complete crap sorry to say it.

If you want to suggest a server reset ever EVER then ypu'll need to include EVERYTHING getting put into app, which takes awayt eh whole point of a reset!

Some people worked hard there and they deserve what they have.I f it wasn't for the main UU caps then there would be people who you wouldnt ever catch on main lol.

Sleipnir wrote:

Lord_Zeus wrote:They can then reinvest that as they choose. APP only, not invested life force. It will mean you maintain your advantage, however other people are given a chance.

I have a total of 1890 AP, which I have never even used. All my power in ascension is from playing the server, and I'm ranked in the top 70 currently. So why should those that played main well and ascended with huge amounts of APP be rewarded, where those that played main purely to gain access to ascended, and played ascended very well, are screwed?

Much the same as me, my largest ascension was 1mill APP, but that was only recently. I ascended early and mostly APP was just a boost. My entire account has been built by hard work.

Thankyou for pointing that out sleipnir and mojo , I was hoping that the main bonuses would balance it out, however as you pointed out, there are those who have played ascension extremely well, and the bonus will probably not cover the damage.

What kind of solution would solve this that you can think of?


"This is complete crap sorry to say it.

If you want to suggest a server reset ever EVER then ypu'll need to include EVERYTHING getting put into app, which takes awayt eh whole point of a reset!

Some people worked hard there and they deserve what they have.I f it wasn't for the main UU caps then there would be people who you wouldnt ever catch on main lol."

The reason I feel we need a reset is the complete imbalance by the powerful players in the game, mainly due to the fact they are allied and preventing anyone from building up any significant strength.

I think a certain amount of resources could be included as a bonus for playing well (in the ascended server), however it cannot be linear, as you pointed out shooting star, you have several million planets, that might be 5% of the entire amount of planets in the game.. its too overbalancing and would not achieve the goal of a reset, to make ascended challenging, possible, allow Real descension to be brought in as well as still maintaining the advantage that the stronger players have.

This is not a finished proposal... I'm trying to work something out that would be fair to everyone and improve the gameplay as well as entertainment value of the server. Obviously you cannot be completely fair to everyone, however you can be as fair as possible .

Some people are still planning big ascentions, like myself.

if u played it like it was meant to b played u wouldnt b complaining, if it is reset which i cant c happening i would rather have all my uu back and all the naq i spent on my m/s's spy and a/c lvl's and naq i had to acened with, wouldnt b bothed with the amount i would have made from it have it but i c that would b fair to me

now i know about the amount of uu i have given up and thats near 80 mil

naq is around 80 tri so if that the case i want that back

either way i aint fused 80 mil uu and 80 tri naq, or leave it the way it is and maybe done some ascension like the rest of us have, my last one cost me just over 20 mil uu one bfore that about 15 mil uu a whole load of spy lvls

all it takes is spending enought time on the game as i have attacking and then buying what i want maybe others that want to do well should do the same

The only problem i see in ascension is the Raid Miners thing.

expept from that, if you work hard you can catch. or get close enouth.

IS not made to be easy. IS not made for every1.

YOU ALL shoude remenber that ascension is for the BESTs.

PSICOLIX wrote:The only problem i see in ascension is the Raid Miners thing.

expept from that, if you work hard you can catch. or get close enouth.

IS not made to be easy. IS not made for every1.

YOU ALL shoude remenber that ascension is for the BESTs.

Good simple post there, sums everything up.

100% agreed.

I disagree, raiding miners is the best thing they have in this game, it makes it possible to catch up, Except for the top 50 players in the server being allied.... Seems theres not much support for this so I wont bother drawing up a new one...

btw reborn... the number of players that have 20 mil to invest are very few... you know this. >_<, its 10x easier to grow from 40 mil to 60 mil than from 0 to 20 mil.