Page 1 of 2

Massing a Def

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:49 pm
by Obsidian311-
pretty sure this isn't a bug because im sure people have done it before but it could be...


how is it that someone with 1/3 strike power of your def can mass your def? seems pretty crappy that to mass a 30 bil def all you have to build is a 10 bil strike? if this is a bug someone needs to look at it because there should be no way this can happen as it is basically saying that ok here is the deal in order to mass a def you need 1/3 of the troops and weapons. could just be me but this seems like BS.

Crazysean

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:53 pm
by killtacular
if Im not mistaken its not a 1/3 but a 1/4 to mass someone.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:54 pm
by Unimatrix881
The thing is the person who is massing usually has the advantage to repair their weapons and to retrain their troops while massing, provided that the other person is offline. If both of you are online and repairing simultaneously, the person with the lower strike/defense force would suffer much larger losses.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:56 pm
by Juliette
It's like this:

You can destroy a city wall in an instant with a rocketlauncher, or in a day with a constant barrage of otherwise weak trebuchets... :)

Either way, the wall comes down.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:26 pm
by ~Zekk~
i took down a 40bill defense once with a 12-13bill strike...so... :-D



~Zekk~

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:34 pm
by Lord_Zeus
If your not using mercs or a lot of attack planets or a combo of both its very unprofitable >_<... its good how it is :)

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:18 pm
by Hensenshi
You need 20% to mass someone's defense. This way the rank 1 def can still be massed. It's more of a safeguard for the higher members, but it's still useful for anyone I guess.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:34 pm
by Hells__Angel
Its easy with a few turns and a stock of uu. :-)

Just 1 turn away supers until the defence is where you need it then mass it like normal - probably carry on 1 turning for a bit and finish with 15's.

Re: Massing a Def

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:36 pm
by Bazsy
Crazysean- wrote:pretty sure this isn't a bug because im sure people have done it before but it could be...


how is it that someone with 1/3 strike power of your def can mass your def? seems pretty crappy that to mass a 30 bil def all you have to build is a 10 bil strike? if this is a bug someone needs to look at it because there should be no way this can happen as it is basically saying that ok here is the deal in order to mass a def you need 1/3 of the troops and weapons. could just be me but this seems like BS.

Crazysean


They loose much more units if massing with less strike than your def.
And just look at planets... 1/5 fleet power can mass a planet def, so that 1/3 thing is far from that ;)

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:57 pm
by Dean_S
erm thank guys, u give me a idea to waste some uu so i stay under the plague :D


lets mass 300bill defences with my 100bill strike

muhahahaha :D

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:36 pm
by REK
:D


random mass generator anyone

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:41 am
by TheRook
I made one of those for bill last year...

randomly generated and ID to go hit but since then the new 111000 style ID's have come in :(

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:24 am
by Sleipnir
Just be glad. Used to be so there was no limit whatsoever. You could basically mass a 1 tril defense with 1 merc and 1 weapon. And besides, massing with 1/5 of the defense takes more turns and costs more units (I believe, I'm not much of a masser). So in the end, they pay for it anyway.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:37 am
by Cole
Dean_S wrote:erm thank guys, u give me a idea to waste some uu so i stay under the plague :D


lets mass 300bill defences with my 100bill strike

muhahahaha :D

Hmmmm...
Big def down=def to 0=less def in top=more ranks for us :D

Sleipnir wrote:Just be glad. Used to be so there was no limit whatsoever. You could basically mass a 1 tril defense with 1 merc and 1 weapon. And besides, massing with 1/5 of the defense takes more turns and costs more units (I believe, I'm not much of a masser). So in the end, they pay for it anyway.

Yep massing with 1/2 or 1/3 strike takes hell alot of AT and uu

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:53 am
by TORN4DO
ah massing with lower strike aint that bad if you have planets and a nice ms :)