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So I recieved this attack when I had just over 20bil def (below).
My MS added just over 4bil to my defence and should have put my def total over 24bil... So how was the attack sucessfull with only 23bil incomming?

Sorry if this is a noob question, but ive only been playing a few weeks.


Attack Details
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As with all battles, this one has been recorded for the official history of your realm. You, of course, are the first to know the results as they are reported directly to you first. This is the official report of the battle:




The army of XXXXXXX stormed the realm of YYYYYY!



XXXXXXX sent:
1 Covert Infiltrator Bot and 16 Super Assimilators and 425,240 Assimilators

Careful and thourough observation records that the troops were armed as follows:

16 Super Assimilators have Mobile Assult Planet
199,984 Assimilators have Mobile Assult Planet
225256 Assimilators came unarmed!



Opposite this, stood the forces of YYYYYY



YYYYYY resisted the aggressors with:
351,417 Defensive NID Team and 200,000 Home Base Guard
Careful and thourough observation records that the army carried the following arsenal:

351,417 Defensive NID Team have Ion Cannon
200,000 Home Base Guard have Ion Cannon




In a fury, the two opposing forces clash!




XXXXXX, personally commanding 0000000, their MotherShip, initiates the battle.
YYYYYYY was was commanding 9999999, thier MotherShip.
00000000 hovers above the battle, with all available fleets launching!
9999999, and its fleets, meets it head on!
00000000 uses its Nano Volley to inflict 37,810,000 damage, destroying 0 Energy Shields on 9999999!
The Mothership has exhausted all of its offensive power.

9999999 uses its Nuclear Volley to inflict 4,236,045,000 damage, destroying 1 Matter-Phasic Shields on 00000000!
Blowing through the extended shield defenses, it also destroyed 0 Nano Volley, and downed 0 fleets!

YYYYYYY's 999999 provides 4,039,765,000 additional defence power to the troops on the ground!



The forces of XXXXXX rush in full force, and inflict 23,046,891,262 damage on YYYYYYY forces!
Judging from the troop and army makeup, 6,366,501,000 of that damage came from support planets.
It was confirmed that 15,028 of YYYYYYY's forces fell at the hands of XXXXXX's assult.



The forces of YYYYYYY fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 21,252,502,486 damage on XXXXXX's forces!
Judging from the troop and army makeup, 168,134,400 of that damage came from support planets.
They managed to eradicate 23,528 of XXXXXX's troops.



The forces of XXXXXXX's Covert Infiltrator Bot break off from main attack force, and seek out westond's Undercover Agents!
0 Covert Infiltrator Bot are taken down by the defending army while attempting to disengage from the main battle!
The remaining Covert Infiltrator Bot engage the covert networks of the realm.
Unfortunately, YYYYYY's Undercover Agents were too good at what they do for you to effectively find, target and eliminate.






Putting down the chronicled battle report, you cross reference and call for the corrosponding military armory reports to see the state of your weapons after such a battle...



Your Ion Cannon went from strength 2,000 to 1,988 (now 1988/2000 and 1 percent damaged)



The forces of XXXXXX massacred those of YYYYYY
The forces of YYYYYYY flee from the battlefield! One could see glory on the face of the victors, and spite on the defeated!


Considering what was available at the time in the realm of YYYYYY, it is recorded that
a total of 1,403,759,133 Naquadah was taken from the realm of YYYYYY

Many wonder if westond will consider retaliation, but - when force meets force - there will have to be some changes in the preparedness of YYYYYY before such a feat should wisely be considered!
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Because after MS battle you only get the remaining MS power just as the attacker. The remaing power + strike was better than your remaining power + def. Its pretty clear...

Thats just it, its not clear. If I had just over 20bil in defence from my troops ( i know for a fact because i had just finished training UU into NID's before the attack).. and my MS added just over 4 bil to my def then the 24bil in defence should have repelled his 23bil attack. Instead of having the 24bil in defence I was only credited with 21,252,502,486 . What happened to the other 3 bil?

Your actual def is always lower than its shown. As I know its 80-99% of it randomly.... or something like that. So you got 17b + 4b = 21b No problem here....

Bazsy wrote:Your actual def is always lower than its shown. As I know its 80-99% of it randomly

Thats what was needed right there. That makes the affair make sense. I just got the lower end of the random seed. I was under the impression that the numbers were absolute.

I beleive its because your mothership attacked his mothership and vice versa, his mothership was much stronger, so you exausted all but 161milll of your mothership, plus the fact your troops are only a certain % effective, so your defence wasnt as good, whereas his much stronger mothership boosted an extra 6 bill to his attack, making it 23 billl.

theonlyfox wrote:

Bazsy wrote:Your actual def is always lower than its shown. As I know its 80-99% of it randomly

Thats what was needed right there. That makes the affair make sense. I just got the lower end of the random seed. I was under the impression that the numbers were absolute.

ahhh, yes, I do believe it can go to 2/3 to 4/3's of your natural limit. IE: your men have good days and bad days and fight harder or weaker based on it

the2ndlibra[Rienna] wrote:

theonlyfox wrote:

Bazsy wrote:Your actual def is always lower than its shown. As I know its 80-99% of it randomly

Thats what was needed right there. That makes the affair make sense. I just got the lower end of the random seed. I was under the impression that the numbers were absolute.

ahhh, yes, I do believe it can go to 2/3 to 4/3's of your natural limit. IE: your men have good days and bad days and fight harder or weaker based on it

http://www.stargatewars.com/help.php#Calculations wrote:Strike Action: This is obtained from taking your weapon strength for each weapon manned by a super unit, x 10. Then adding to that all weapon strengths manned by normal units x 5. Then this total is multiplied by each of your Siege Technology upgrades, and by your race bonus (25% for Tauri) if applicable.

War (attack/raid) Success and Winnings: Your Strike Action (which is from 75% to 100% of your total potential Strike Action as determined above), must be bigger than their defence action (which is from 75% to 100% of their total potential Defence Action as determined above. Winnings are up to 75% of their naquadah (or 1.5% of untrained soldiers on raid), for a full 15 turns. Each turn less than 15 used obviously takes 1/15th of that potential away. Being at war with them adds 50% to these potentials, while if you are both at war, it doubles.

and there ya go