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a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:06 pm
by kurai
1. when i ascend, do i get to keep my planets?
2. can i use attacking and defending mercenaries as "trained units" when ascending?
3. if i ascend and change race i will change into a non-ascended race?
4. once i get a supporter status (ascending) i cannot lose it? (by say changing race)
5. after i got the G&R points and units needed it doesn't matter what rank i have when i hit the "ascend-button" ? (i mean since i only get to keep lifers i would want to untrain all non-merc units and make them lifers before ascending)
answers, comments (non-rude

), tips etc are much appreciated... i really like this game

Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:41 pm
by GAT-X207
stekspade wrote:1. when i ascend, do i get to keep my planets?
2. can i use attacking and defending mercenaries as "trained units" when ascending?
3. are untrained mercenaries usable when you ascend only (as "untrained units"), and you cannot do anything else with them?
4. if i ascend and change race i will change into a non-ascended race?
5. once i get a supporter status (ascending) i cannot lose it? (by say changing race)
6. after i got the G&R points and units needed it doesn't matter what rank i have when i hit the "ascend-button" ? (i mean since i only get to keep lifers i would want to untrain all non-merc units and make them lifers before ascending)
answers, comments (non-rude

), tips etc are much appreciated... i really like this game

1 yes, they stay
2 they'll most likely be grouped with mercs
3 they give cheap APP
4 depends 1 advanced race to another=no consequences
advanced race to basic race then there are dire consequences
6 rank when ascending doesnt matter, just get required GR, naq an uu and of course sufficient APP
5 no ss will stay with you forever unless for some odd reason you request it be removed by game admin
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:47 pm
by kurai
thanks alot for the reply

much appreciated
but 2 things i didn't get..
on question 2... if i need 100 k trained units, can i use 100k attacking mercs?
and... what is APP?

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Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:49 pm
by LTC
APP = ascension power points, you can use them on the ascended server.
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:36 am
by kurai
Little Tea Cup wrote:APP = ascension power points, you can use them on the ascended server.
oh... but do i need APP for ascending the first time?
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:09 am
by The Xeno
oh... but do i need APP for ascending the first time?
Yes, but the way things work - you shouldn't need to worry about that.
There is a 'minimum' you need, but it's very low and chances are you will far, far surpass it without even trying.
Now, if you want a decent ascension account (if that is even possible in this day and age)... massive APP is the key.
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:22 pm
by kurai
thanks alot for the replies, much appreciated!

but slow me has one tiny question before i stop bugging you

if i untrain all my units and make lifers out of them (train, untrain, train, untrain till i only got trained and untrained mercs left and tons of lifers)
will that affect my APP?
i'd hate to get enough GR to ascend and then make all my non-merc units lifers and then see that i cannot ascend and i have to climb back to top before trying again ><
cuz i can do that, right? untrain all non-mercs and make lifers out of them and then ascend? (i got a couple 100k more attack mercs than "required trained units needed", and tons of untrained mercs)
sorry if my question just might sound a bit "blurry", i'm very, very sleepy...
i just read what i asked and i got confused myself... >< and i'm too tired to re-phrase myself

oh well, let's see if you guys understood what i didn't get, else i'll ask again .)
have a very good night
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:54 pm
by The Xeno
sorry if my question just might sound a bit "blurry", i'm very, very sleepy...
Do be advised: we are bound by rule 16 - though i've obviously been rather lax about it recently.
Laxity comparable to a gulf the size of the milky-way... geh, we may return to "if it deals with ascension it's locked" in the near future.
Now:
cuz i can do that, right? untrain all non-mercs and make lifers out of them and then ascend? (i got a couple 100k more attack mercs than "required trained units needed", and tons of untrained mercs)
You keep your lifers - they are not translated into APP, do not count towards minimums, and do not... um... do that thing everthing else does when you ascended. Therefore, you train them into lifers you'll lose out on the APP, but they'll be waiting for you when you come back.
Untrained units and miners
do count toward APP (and thus minimum req.) and do "do that thing everthing else does when you ascened" (...e.g. vanish...

).
Therefore if you want the APP, check the conversion rates and find what is most valuable.
Otherwise, cut yourself down to the minimum requirements - turning the excess into lifers or shiping them off.
Just be sure to go on PPT before you do this - that way if you mess up the minimum req. or something else goes awry you have some time to fix things.
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:58 pm
by kurai
thank you!
now i only got one question left, but that one i'm gonna use my old friend "search" to find the answer to =)
thx again
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:07 pm
by deathguard
btw if u have even a up of 5k i think it is on ur first asention u baiscaly outomatical have the minimum app requirements so u dnt need to wrry about it
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:03 am
by kurai
deathguard wrote:btw if u have even a up of 5k i think it is on ur first asention u baiscaly outomatical have the minimum app requirements so u dnt need to wrry about it
cool, i stopped increasing it when i found out that it was cheaper to ascend with low UP. got 11k up now.. hope it won't cost much to ascend

Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:33 pm
by WeaponX
stekspade wrote:deathguard wrote:btw if u have even a up of 5k i think it is on ur first asention u baiscaly outomatical have the minimum app requirements so u dnt need to wrry about it
cool, i stopped increasing it when i found out that it was cheaper to ascend with low UP. got 11k up now.. hope it won't cost much to ascend

based on 11K raw UP (you gave a round number im guessing and not the exact number) and this is your first ascension you will have to have...2,749,999,999 naq, 274,999 UU and 109,999 trained units.
now you know how much it will cost.
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:38 pm
by kurai
Neptune wrote:stekspade wrote:deathguard wrote:btw if u have even a up of 5k i think it is on ur first asention u baiscaly outomatical have the minimum app requirements so u dnt need to wrry about it
cool, i stopped increasing it when i found out that it was cheaper to ascend with low UP. got 11k up now.. hope it won't cost much to ascend

based on 11K raw UP (you gave a round number im guessing and not the exact number) and this is your first ascension you will have to have...2,749,999,999 naq, 274,999 UU and 109,999 trained units.
now you know how much it will cost.
i tried the calculator too, but the calculator says nothing about APP, or if i can use mercs as trained, and untrained mercs as untrained units ^^
i have asked but never really understood the replies, so i will just wait and see when the time comes

thx though
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:19 pm
by WeaponX
no mercs do not count as trained units.
as for APP you'll find out when you get the 1001 points needed. all will be explained then, in minute detail.
Re: a couple of newbee questions...
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:09 pm
by kurai
Neptune wrote:no mercs do not count as trained units.
finally answer even i understood
