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Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:14 am
by RepliJake
Life Force is clearly an issue in ascended especially as far as descension goes, you've got people with 30+ mil Life Force with a max life of 20k, so 200k reserves so the max someone can hit them for is like 67k IF their Life Force stayed still, well, if they didn't get any more than 30 million it would take about 450 attacks to descend them, but since it's impossible for them not to get more, allot more, plus they can convert more DMU to Life Force in that time, you can only do 6 attacks a day, 1 every 4 hours over 24 hours so about 75 days IF they didn't get any more Life Force, and once person couldn't do it.
That is just rediculous, if your excuse is that's a tactic or you argue they're too small for big players to be attacking, do you think it's easier for a smaller person to descend them?
I have 1 suggestion, you can only go a set amount over your max Life Force, that way if people want to go higher they need to up their Life Force max Level and not just keep it low with lots and lots of Life Force.
You would still be able to go over that with APP conversion but once you've done it you can't get more until you're under your "absolute maximum"
It's either something like that or you make the max hit one 3rd of their reserves PLUS whatever Life Force they currently have.
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:57 am
by buck
Agreed with jake, otherwise, whats the point in ascending "big" ?
Ascension is supposed to be the best of the best showing who can play the best, not who can buy the most DMU on main and turn it into life force
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:00 am
by Raven
in other words you want to easily descend people.....before messing with ascension make Ascensions matter something instead of just being a waste of resources.....
Btw your sig lags big time RJ
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:15 pm
by Hensenshi
RepliJake wrote:It's either something like that or you make the max hit one 3rd of their reserves PLUS whatever Life Force they currently have.
This makes more sense to me.
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:45 pm
by Lore
RepliJake wrote:Life Force is clearly an issue in ascended especially as far as descension goes, you've got people with 30+ mil Life Force with a max life of 20k, so 200k reserves so the max someone can hit them for is like 67k IF their Life Force stayed still, well, if they didn't get any more than 30 million it would take about 450 attacks to descend them, but since it's impossible for them not to get more, allot more, plus they can convert more DMU to Life Force in that time, you can only do 6 attacks a day, 1 every 4 hours over 24 hours so about 75 days IF they didn't get any more Life Force, and once person couldn't do it.
That is just rediculous, if your excuse is that's a tactic or you argue they're too small for big players to be attacking, do you think it's easier for a smaller person to descend them?
While I fully agree that ascended is now completely a joke that isn't being dealt with properly. My question is can multiple people do personal attacks on the same account? Can 20 people all get 3 att a day on 1 account?
I have 1 suggestion, you can only go a set amount over your max Life Force, that way if people want to go higher they need to up their Life Force max Level and not just keep it low with lots and lots of Life Force.
You would still be able to go over that with APP conversion but once you've done it you can't get more until you're under your "absolute maximum"
It's either something like that or you make the max hit one 3rd of their reserves PLUS whatever Life Force they currently have.
Can multiple accounts do personal attacks on a single account at once? say 20 accounts hitting 1 account 3 times a day each therefore putting 60 attacks on 1 account?
(And yes Jake, ascended is a complete joke that is not being dealt with properly)
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:14 pm
by RepliJake
Lore wrote:
Can multiple accounts do personal attacks on a single account at once? say 20 accounts hitting 1 account 3 times a day each therefore putting 60 attacks on 1 account?
No, and if they are in an ascended battle that they initiated with someone else you can't attack them then either.
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:17 pm
by Hells__Angel
So if I want to buy a charisma level for 5m LF... and I have a max LF level of 500k LF... I wont be able to get that charisma level?
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:55 am
by RepliJake
Hells__Angel wrote:So if I want to buy a charisma level for 5m LF... and I have a max LF level of 500k LF... I wont be able to get that charisma level?
RepliJake wrote:you can only go a set amount over your max Life Force
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:10 am
by Lore
Jakes point is their are "Untouchable" accounts out there. If 1 account can only be hit a set amount of times per day and except minimul damage each time while continualy gaining more LF than is lost, then they can not ever be deascended and that negates the point of deascention and makes the account unbeatable.
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:45 am
by Timmy
RepliJake wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:So if I want to buy a charisma level for 5m LF... and I have a max LF level of 500k LF... I wont be able to get that charisma level?
RepliJake wrote:you can only go a set amount over your max Life Force
this ins't such a bad idea, inconvenient but such is the cost of growing sunstantially. but it would still be possible to ascend and keep the life force...
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:05 am
by Hells__Angel
I dont agree with the first idea the second would work though.
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:36 am
by RepliJake
Hells__Angel wrote:I dont agree with the first idea the second would work though.
I'd prefer the second idea too. Although I do think people should put more balance into their stats and not just get charisma lvl's. lol
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:09 am
by samson1111
I agree with a max limit. But I think the max limit should be bigger. I mean
max LF = 10 x LF reserves and every ascended attack should consume like 50k LF from both sides + the damage each accounts made.
10x LF cause ppl should not been descended in 8 hours.. there should bemore fighting to descend some1
50k LF... it can be any amount... this would mean, that ppl who have smaller max LF capacities would be descended sooner. I see a lot of ppl with 0 LF Maximum Level, which means, max damage I could do is 15k LF. It'd be way to cheap for them to stay not descended
The only problem I can see in this is, what will happen if APP was converted into LF...
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:27 pm
by Timmy
to solve it all we could just say that above X times your max capacity a % of life force dies.
when people ascend they are online and therefore should spend there life force imediately.
i am not sure about what the X or the % should be
maybe 50 times max life force and 5%??
Re: Life Force Life Force Life Force...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:14 pm
by Lore
RepliJake wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:I dont agree with the first idea the second would work though.
I'd prefer the second idea too. Although I do think people should put more balance into their stats and not just get charisma lvl's. lol
True but in a scramble to grow equalling out stats is suicide.