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APP Calculator?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:24 am
by vinny d
Is there an APP calculator? I have no clue, that is why I am asking. If there is one great, if not oh well.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:20 pm
by vinny d
Hey, I'll settle for a "not to my knowledge" from one of you people who have viewed this topic/will view this topic.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:58 pm
by Hensenshi
I believe there IS one, but I don't know the URL.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:54 pm
by vinny d
woohoo! :D

Now at least i have hope :)

Now lets find the person with the url! Come and spread the word of this amazing calculator! It would make me a very happy man.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:57 pm
by Munchy
I think the reason they are not that common is because of the simplicity of the conversions.

Unit Production Calculated on Total Levels
Covert Level Calculated on Total Levels
Untrained Units 1 to 700
Trained Military Units 1 to 600
Super Trained Military Units 1 to 50
Covert Operatives 1 to 400
Total Trained Forces ---(no particular conversion)
Mercs 1 to 2400
Current Weapons Calculated on Total Weapon Inventory Values
Current Turns 1 to 10 1441
Current Naquadah 1 to 6000000
MotherShip Naquadah equivalent(weapons value only, not slots...)
Glory and Reputation Points 1 to 30

True, the 'based on total values' ones are trickier, but they are not that hard to figure out.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:11 pm
by Hensenshi
UP is extremely complicated. :?

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:02 pm
by Maulwurf05
... and the most interesting too :?

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:57 am
by Zarakai Kenpachi
Munchy wrote:I think the reason they are not that common is because of the simplicity of the conversions.

Unit Production Calculated on Total Levels
Covert Level Calculated on Total Levels
Untrained Units 1 to 700
Trained Military Units 1 to 600
Super Trained Military Units 1 to 50
Covert Operatives 1 to 400
Total Trained Forces ---(no particular conversion)
Mercs 1 to 2400
Current Weapons Calculated on Total Weapon Inventory Values
Current Turns 1 to 10 1441
Current Naquadah 1 to 6000000
MotherShip Naquadah equivalent(weapons value only, not slots...)
Glory and Reputation Points 1 to 30

True, the 'based on total values' ones are trickier, but they are not that hard to figure out.



dont forget that these requirements increase each time you ascend and that the bonus for each increases each time you ascend....

the APP you get for 10k UP @ prior is alot smaller than the APP you get @ LG+1. i still havent found the variance so i can come up with a proper guide for ascension yet :(

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:59 am
by Munchy
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:
Munchy wrote:I think the reason they are not that common is because of the simplicity of the conversions.

Unit Production Calculated on Total Levels
Covert Level Calculated on Total Levels
Untrained Units 1 to 700
Trained Military Units 1 to 600
Super Trained Military Units 1 to 50
Covert Operatives 1 to 400
Total Trained Forces ---(no particular conversion)
Mercs 1 to 2400
Current Weapons Calculated on Total Weapon Inventory Values
Current Turns 1 to 10 1441
Current Naquadah 1 to 6000000
MotherShip Naquadah equivalent(weapons value only, not slots...)
Glory and Reputation Points 1 to 30

True, the 'based on total values' ones are trickier, but they are not that hard to figure out.



dont forget that these requirements increase each time you ascend and that the bonus for each increases each time you ascend....

the APP you get for 10k UP @ prior is alot smaller than the APP you get @ LG+1. i still havent found the variance so i can come up with a proper guide for ascension yet :(


True, the requirements increase, but the 'transfer' rates from resource to APP is the same, I believe.

As for minimums increasing, I believe it is something like this:
UP minimums increases 500 per ascention
UU requirements increases in relation to UP by 6.25 each ascention
Total Trained Forces requirements increases in relation to UP by 5 each ascention
Naquadah requirements increases by 125,000 in relation to UP per ascention

with the first one having these minimums:
Unit Production min-1,000
Untrained Units --------------25:1
Total Trained Forces -----------------10:1
Current Naquadah ----------------250,000:1
(please note, I rounded numbers a tiny bit.)

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:59 am
by urogard
Hensenshi wrote:UP is extremely complicated. :?

up isn't extremely complicated :D

it's so simple and elemental I posted it somewhere in the ascended forums a few times already.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:01 am
by urogard
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:the APP you get for 10k UP @ prior is alot smaller than the APP you get @ LG+1. i still havent found the variance so i can come up with a proper guide for ascension yet :(


salem, my calcs i did when my brother was ascending and comparing it to the calcs i did at lg+1 resulted that 10k up always gets you the same amount of app

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:42 am
by Hells__Angel
urogard wrote:
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:the APP you get for 10k UP @ prior is alot smaller than the APP you get @ LG+1. i still havent found the variance so i can come up with a proper guide for ascension yet :(


salem, my calcs i did when my brother was ascending and comparing it to the calcs i did at lg+1 resulted that 10k up always gets you the same amount of app


Yep, the only thing that rises are the requirements.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:31 pm
by Hensenshi
urogard wrote:
Hensenshi wrote:UP is extremely complicated. :?

up isn't extremely complicated :D

it's so simple and elemental I posted it somewhere in the ascended forums a few times already.

Actually it is because at a certain point the exponential equations changes, meaning you need to recalculate it.

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:49 pm
by Munchy
Hensenshi wrote:
urogard wrote:
Hensenshi wrote:UP is extremely complicated. :?

up isn't extremely complicated :D

it's so simple and elemental I posted it somewhere in the ascended forums a few times already.

Actually it is because at a certain point the exponential equations changes, meaning you need to recalculate it.



Just curious, at what raw UP does it change?

Re: APP Calculator?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:46 pm
by Hensenshi
Munchy wrote:
Hensenshi wrote:
urogard wrote:
Hensenshi wrote:UP is extremely complicated. :?

up isn't extremely complicated :D

it's so simple and elemental I posted it somewhere in the ascended forums a few times already.

Actually it is because at a certain point the exponential equations changes, meaning you need to recalculate it.



Just curious, at what raw UP does it change?

At least from my calcs, at 250k the curve changes.