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So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:47 am
by Jora Sjacka
There is a consensus among scholars that the Vikings did reach North America, approximately five centuries before Christopher Columbus and John Cabot.
EY!?
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:15 pm
by ~Zekk~
yeah, so much for the history books

~Zeke~
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:10 pm
by Come_Forth
Lisa Simpson wrote:I'm so proud of you, Mom. You're like Christopher Columbus. You discovered something millions of people did before you.
Even if the Vikings did discover North America first it does not really matter since nothing came of their colony.
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:22 pm
by Fear Of The Duck
now, this gets even more interesting: certain archeological finds indicate the limited exchange existed between ancient egypt and pre-columbian america.
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:24 pm
by Apollo
The Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooora! Eeek! *Uberglomp*
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:03 pm
by Come_Forth
Corran Horn wrote:now, this gets even more interesting: certain archeological finds indicate the limited exchange existed between ancient egypt and pre-columbian america.
I doubt that

Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:15 pm
by ~Zekk~
Come_Forth wrote:Corran Horn wrote:now, this gets even more interesting: certain archeological finds indicate the limited exchange existed between ancient egypt and pre-columbian america.
I doubt that

Why? Egypt had ships, who's to say they didn't use them right?

~Zeke~
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:34 pm
by Zeratul
the ancient cultures were much more advanced than history books claim...
(in fact, history ignores the mightiest of the ancient cultures of earth the alterans)
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:22 am
by #?#
~Zekk~ wrote:Come_Forth wrote:Corran Horn wrote:now, this gets even more interesting: certain archeological finds indicate the limited exchange existed between ancient egypt and pre-columbian america.
I doubt that

Why? Egypt had ships, who's to say they didn't use them right?

~Zeke~
Egypt to America, that's kind of a long way, especially for boats back then don't you think?
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:07 am
by ~Zekk~
Not really.
Like Zeratul said, the history books greatly diminish the greatness of the ancient civilizations. Egypt was a lot more powerful then it's made out to be, and if they wanted to I'm sure they could have went to America. And, like Zeratul also said, there were many other powerful ancient civilizations that the history books overlook.
Morale of the story: don't believe anything you learn in school
~Zeke~
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:56 am
by velya
i read something a while back that they found the skulls of saber tooths in a babylonian temple. it was proof there was some kind of trade, cos that kind of saber only came from one place
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:44 am
by Apadizamek
~Zekk~ wrote:Not really.
Like Zeratul said, the history books greatly diminish the greatness of the ancient civilizations. Egypt was a lot more powerful then it's made out to be, and if they wanted to I'm sure they could have went to America. And, like Zeratul also said, there were many other powerful ancient civilizations that the history books overlook.
Morale of the story: don't believe anything you learn in school
~Zeke~
Incorrect. Egypt was a powerhouse but not an empire per say as they never really conquered a country. The egyptians never colonized a city out of Egypt as I recall due to the fact that anyone who died out of Egypt was not sent to the afterlife and just Atheist died. Therefor it would be nigh on impossible to colonize a city outside of Egypt.
Another thing, Egyptians were the worst sailer's of the ancient world. They were spoiled by the Nile so much they could never handle the sea. It confused them and why bother going? The Nile brought fish and good farmland the sea brought lots of dead sailer's and some fish.
Morale of the story: stop watching stargate and thinking its a documentary
P.S. as for the sabertooth tiger thing. Er we find saber tooth tigers ALL the time their bones and such. Babylon was a very highly agricultural civilization it's quite easy to assume they simply dug it up and presumed it to be the bone of some ancient god.
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:56 am
by ~Zekk~
stargate isnt a documentary, its a coverup used to hide the real stargate program from the citizens of earth.

and that's true. i never said they did it, just that it was somewhat possible. plus, theres always the possibility that some other civilization traded from america, then traded the american stuff with Egypt. the only real way to know is to go back in time and observe america for a few thousand years...and, well...i dont think thats gonna happen soon
~Zeke~
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:58 am
by Come_Forth
Exactly Apadamek, I have taken several ancient history courses from some well known professors, and there is no way in hell that the Egyptians crossed the Atlantic. Next we will start saying that the 10 plagues actually happened to the Egyptians

I have worked on a dig with National Geographic in the southern area of the US and I know that the Archeologists I worked with do not believe that Egypt ever came in contact with the Native Americans.
Re: So much for Columbus, ey?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:10 pm
by Fear Of The Duck
maybe they came in contact with egypt??
ok. then for sure you will know better than me: some ancient ships were actually bigger and stronger biult than columbus'. right?